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Walther PPS / Ruger LCP Comparison
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John, difficult to compare the two really because the Walther PPS is a 9mm vs. a .380 and quite a bit more expensive than the LCP so it's a bit of apples and oranges. I will say however being the owner of two Walthers - a P99 in 9mm and a P99c in .40, that the current crop of Walthers are super weapons and it's a shame they don't get more attention. Part of the problem is that that Walther is currently distrubuted in the US by S&W and as we all know, S&W is pushing very aggresively the M&P at the expense of the Walther.
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The LCPs msrp is $330
The PPS has a msrp of $699
The S&W 340s msrp is $1053
About the same differance between the PPS to the LCP as the 340 to the PPS.
3 LCPs for the price of 1 S&W 340.
My comparison is just size though.
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The PPS has a msrp of $699
The S&W 340s msrp is $1053
About the same differance between the PPS to the LCP as the 340 to the PPS.
3 LCPs for the price of 1 S&W 340.
My comparison is just size though.
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That explanes why my wife thinks my LCP is a Desert Eagle : ;D. John
;D. John
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Just trying to understand????????????
jocko's ex-girlfriend states," that size does matter", and Yankee2500 stated," that his wife thinks his lcp is an desert eagle". so, in correlation of the two above posts being in close proximity of each other; one can conclude that it is possible, and probable that Jocko's ex-girlfriend just might be Yankee2500 wife.
just coincidental i suppose, but makes you wonder????????????????????? LOL,guys
Yankee2500 comparsions are correct about the guns, i have handled both. i do like the black Walter PPS(9mm), i wished ruger would venture out with a project like that.
jocko's ex-girlfriend states," that size does matter", and Yankee2500 stated," that his wife thinks his lcp is an desert eagle". so, in correlation of the two above posts being in close proximity of each other; one can conclude that it is possible, and probable that Jocko's ex-girlfriend just might be Yankee2500 wife.
just coincidental i suppose, but makes you wonder????????????????????? LOL,guys
Yankee2500 comparsions are correct about the guns, i have handled both. i do like the black Walter PPS(9mm), i wished ruger would venture out with a project like that.
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LMAO at that one. Jocko, I think he may be right. ;Dxenicintelligence said:
I've been a Seecamp owner (LWS32) for ten years and in the last six months I have purchased the LCP and the PPS.
The PPS is a hell of a lot more fun (for me) to shoot at the range than the others and I'm more accurate with at at further distances, but its a bit awkward to carry in your pocket - even with a Nemesis holster.
The Seecamp is perfect as a last chance, close-in weapon. Certainly easy to carry in almost all circumstances. Not so much fun at the range. I rarely fire more than two magazines during a session.
I carry the LCP more often than not. It's not too bad at the range - better if you have a mag extension. And I can carry a LCP almost as easily as I can my Seecamp.
Of course there's that 9mm vs 380 vs 32 thing...
The PPS is a hell of a lot more fun (for me) to shoot at the range than the others and I'm more accurate with at at further distances, but its a bit awkward to carry in your pocket - even with a Nemesis holster.
The Seecamp is perfect as a last chance, close-in weapon. Certainly easy to carry in almost all circumstances. Not so much fun at the range. I rarely fire more than two magazines during a session.
I carry the LCP more often than not. It's not too bad at the range - better if you have a mag extension. And I can carry a LCP almost as easily as I can my Seecamp.
Of course there's that 9mm vs 380 vs 32 thing...
Good discussion and debate. I have second guessed myself on this same topic quite a bit and know there are better range guns (from a fun perspective) than the LCP but I got it for concealed carry and think I made the right choice (unless I step up and buy a Glock 19).
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I have had my G-19 for about 20yrs., great gun not all that easy to conceal, the G-36 is thinner and .45cal. John
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it all comes down to personal preference, i have a g36 and it is not really that much thinner than a g19 or g17 were talking maybe one hundredths of an inch in difference about the same size of the g19 with less capacity---mine has 7+1 because i use the pierce grip extensions.
i don't get into the caliber debate because i find it to be irrelevant with todays modern ammo most of the time in most cases. i like the fact that if my .45 fails to expand than it is least a .45 size hole. as far as concealed carry is involved i don't find it any harder than any other gun to conceal because you must dress around the gun.i have even carried my g17 in my pocket before and nobody knew--- i wear carpenter jeans and t-shirts in the summer and pullovers in the fall and winter.
so, the point is what are profiecent and comfortable with?? because it all boils down to putting those bullets where you aim them whether it is a .380 or a 10mm.
Another point to make is what are you most likely to carry???????? most chances when you make a trip to the local stop and rob, you will just grab the car keys, and go to the store leaving that .45 at home or in the car of which is useless when you need it.
The last point is know your capabilities and the limits of your firearm, and to know that is to train,train,train.
personal note -----i wouldn't carry any weapon below a .380, the .380 is my limit for a reasonable defense caliber with of course premium ammo.
i would feel confident with my little .380 or my 9mm or my.45 or the 10mm that i used to have. i would prefer the 10mm or at least a 9mm ,but most of the times i would probably be carrying the .380. practice is the key!!!!!!!!!!! I am no expert , just a man that trains to get better and has learned thru common sense and experiance.
now if you buy a Walter PPS and just want to give it away, i would gladly ease your burden.
i don't get into the caliber debate because i find it to be irrelevant with todays modern ammo most of the time in most cases. i like the fact that if my .45 fails to expand than it is least a .45 size hole. as far as concealed carry is involved i don't find it any harder than any other gun to conceal because you must dress around the gun.i have even carried my g17 in my pocket before and nobody knew--- i wear carpenter jeans and t-shirts in the summer and pullovers in the fall and winter.
so, the point is what are profiecent and comfortable with?? because it all boils down to putting those bullets where you aim them whether it is a .380 or a 10mm.
Another point to make is what are you most likely to carry???????? most chances when you make a trip to the local stop and rob, you will just grab the car keys, and go to the store leaving that .45 at home or in the car of which is useless when you need it.
The last point is know your capabilities and the limits of your firearm, and to know that is to train,train,train.
personal note -----i wouldn't carry any weapon below a .380, the .380 is my limit for a reasonable defense caliber with of course premium ammo.
i would feel confident with my little .380 or my 9mm or my.45 or the 10mm that i used to have. i would prefer the 10mm or at least a 9mm ,but most of the times i would probably be carrying the .380. practice is the key!!!!!!!!!!! I am no expert , just a man that trains to get better and has learned thru common sense and experiance.
now if you buy a Walter PPS and just want to give it away, i would gladly ease your burden.
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I've had my PPS for almost a year now, don't think i'm ready to give it up yet. I'll put your name on the top of the list for when I give it away, if I die before that happens you will need to ask the next of kin. John
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