We got an Attwoods store in our area about a year ago. For those who may not know, it's a tractor supply type store. I was very excited to hear it was coming. On my first visit, I noticed a sign posted on the door. No weapons allowed. Boy, I bet it's a nice store but I haven't been in it yet. I know several others who haven't been in it for the same reason. I'm sure they are probably not the only one with this policy. Anyone know of any others?
Store chains that don't allow customers to carry?
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Approach the business manager/owner and explain your side of the story. I usually remind the store/bank that the largest, successful retailer in the world, (Wal-mart) allows concealed carry within their businesses. Unless the business is owned or controlled by a person of a cowardly nature they sometimes see our side of the picture and removes their stupid placard from the front door. Don't fail to question the manager/owner of any business that displays an anti-firearm placard.
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I suspect Atwoods allows the local manager to make that decision because my Atwoods does not have the placard on their door. But like you, I do not trade where I cannot feel safe.
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Ohioans for Concealed Carry keep an up-to-date list of businesses and other sites
that are "CPZ's" (Criminal Protection Zones). It can be found here: http://ohioccwforums.org/viewforum.php?f=20
that are "CPZ's" (Criminal Protection Zones). It can be found here: http://ohioccwforums.org/viewforum.php?f=20
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In Utah it don't matter the signs don't mean squat unless it's a "secure area" (Court House, Post Office, Federal Building, Police Station, Airport etc...) they can post the signs but you can still carry, the most they can do if they happen to notice your weapon is ask you to leave.
Well, I agree that you can carry 24/7 everywhere you want and no one will know. But, what if you have to use your weapon to defend yourself and, God forbid, shoot and kill someone in a place where there are no weapons allowed. Have you given any thought to that? I hope you can get that lawyer that OJ had. I'm sure some will say, better to be alive and in trouble than dead. I agree with that too. But to say, I carry everywhere 24/7, don't agree. Sorry.....
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I carry 24/7 except in Federal buildings and airports. I feel if I need to shoot a BG it will be overlooked. I have seen it too many other times. Right here in NYC.
at best they would merely excourt you out, no a law to get punished over, If it concealed, then who would know. If you want to flaunt it, indeed you won't last longin there. .LSU FAN said:
Personally I sold guns for 40 years in a legitimate business building and I was never really impressed when the John wayne type walked in with his handgun visible on his side. I worry more about these people than I do the concealed carry person, for I never knew who was carrying. Usually to me I have found over the years the one who wants to show off his guns and right to carry is one that might just lack some common sense. eash to his own, you don't haveto patronize the place that allows no firearms. they made a decision, its their business. Will it hurt their bueinsss. NO. How many carry inside a post office . NONE because it is federal law that u cannot. Do you boycott post offices also?? I respect those business who post those signs, I also just ignore them and carry concealed. If I had to use my handgun to protect my life inside that business I feel very confident that their stupid sign on the wall has no legal bite to it.
Lets face it, those two people who killed each other in that Toys R us store is just going to cause more of thos signs to be posted in business. Doesn't matter if they were gang related or not. And they were carrying concealed, so no sign in Toys R Us would have prevented that. Good thing about the shooting is that they are both dead, and no wasted taxpayer money will be needed to convict. Bury um and move on..
smoke um if you got um!!
Pretty good points Jocko. To answer your question, do I boycott post offices. My wife takes care of all the post office business. So I really have no reason to go there. But if I needed to, I certainly would. You may have missed my point though. STORES THAT DON'T ALLOW CARRY. I understand and respect the law concerning federal buildings. And yes, I know we aren't hurting the stores business. I don't know, maybe ya'll are right. Ignore the signs everywhere and carry. But, I'm not totally convinced yet.
It's a judgement call for everyone to make. Smokers feel crapped on to in restaurants. Most feel smokers should smoke outside, My bet is no doubt a survery would show, no firearms in public buildings or businesses. I personally don't want a guy puffing his cigar at the table next tome while dinning, and I would think most don't want someone carrying a handgun sitting at a table next to them. Concealment is the solution to most all of this entire thread IMO. Flaunt it and you will indeed have issues, keep it tucked away and 99% of the time ur good to go. why rock the boat????LSU FAN said:
I totally agree Jocko and understand that as long as you keep your weapon concealed, no one will know. But I'm looking a little further ahead. Again, what if a situation arises where you have to defend yourself in one of these " no weapon zones". Looks to me like the family of the deceased would have you by the balls. So, I wonder what the law is on this matter. Probably would be different everywhere you went, I don't know. This is the point I'm trying to make. Not whether or not someone knows that your packing. I could also tote around a grenade everywhere I went too and as long as I kept it concealed, who would know? I'm just saying........
I think it is illegal to tote a grenade sign or no sign...family of the deceased???I would assume a person carrying a gun would just not shot someone, just be shooting him or her. I would reasonaly assume that if I had to draw my weapon and use it that the other person has did the same thing. At that parrticular time that sign means nothing to me.LSU FAN said:
No big deal, just don't carry where there is a sign. evidently those two that died in the toy r us store that shot EACH other didn't pay any attention to toy r us rules. I can more than assure you that Toys R us prohibits guns in a kids store, sign or no sign. Not sure they have sign posted but this was in California and ccw permts are very hard to come buy, my bet neither had a ccw permit. I guess my point is also that if one of those persons in toy r us drawed a gun and I didn't have anything to defend myself, who would then have who by the balls??? Really not trying to argue here with u either, as I hate scenarios, like I even posted here, They are scenarios, nothing more. It all boils down for me that my safety and my familys safety comes first over any damn sign posted in a building. As I stated before,at best if they discover your carrying, you will be escorted out of the building. If you get caught carrying concealed then also IMO u did a pi-s poor job of concealment..
smoke um if you got um!!
Around here,north Louisiana, South Arkansas, we have the pistol inside the red circle with the line drawn through it. I guess that would be universal so Spanish speaking folks could understand too. There may be different signs also, I'm not sure.
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