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I've been practicing cc at home until I get my permit. LCP in left front pocket in a superfly. I'm 5' 7" 140 lbs and wear relaxed fit jeans an khakis. With the superfly flap on the outside you can barely make out a vague square shape in my pocket. Without the flap, or with the flap on the inside it totally disappears. No way anyone, including those trying to spot a cc, would notice anything in there at all. Really love this gun, .380 is enough for me. 7 shots of golden sabers to the stomach and most likely that fight is over in 2 seconds.
 

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jocko's right on the mark. don't worry so much, who cares. if it's concealed, it's concealed. it is going to print from time to time no matter what your wearing. if your so concerned about printing then don't carry it. as long as your within the law, your covered. i have never looked at other persons to try and see if they are carrying, it's none of my business, why waste the time, life is too short. i live in fla. and if the open carry bill passes, you will never see me carrying in the open. i have carried 39 years and never been asked if i was carrying. friends know i carry and never mention the fact. it's like carrying my wallet. i have it with me and that's it. we labor on these types of issues way too much. JMHO. :) finn
 

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j we labor on these types of issues way too much. JMHO. :) finn
Agree with that. Even when I feel that my gun might be showing, when I check the mirror, it doesn't. All that is mostly in my mind. But, I won't carry Small Of Back because it's possible that my shirt or coat could catch and show the gun without my knowledge, and I wouldn't want to fall on it.

Having time on hands while waiting on my SWMBO, I sometimes play the "who is carrying?" game. Usually can't tell. Other times, I don't even look. Which I think is true with most people.
 

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Very interesting chain of posts. I look forward to the day I can legally carry. This chain will come in very handy. Most of the time it is chilly (or down right cold) in Wisconsin won't that make it easier to CC because of all the darn cloths a person needs to wear to survive? I am getting more excited each day. I know I need to be careful with that this is WI and who knows how it will all end up. ;D
 

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Glad you find the info useful. Yep, sweaters, vests, light coats and all make concealment easier. Word of caution though about sweaters and garments with hems: if you use a holster with a belt clip that flares out at the end, it is possible to hang up the hem when pulling the garment up with your other hand to clear the holster for the draw. This is mostly with IWB rigs. I prefer IWB Holsters with belt loop(s) or belt attachments that are "C" shaped or "J" hooks to eliminate is potential issue.
 

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I've been practicing cc at home until I get my permit. LCP in left front pocket in a superfly. I'm 5' 7" 140 lbs and wear relaxed fit jeans an khakis. With the superfly flap on the outside you can barely make out a vague square shape in my pocket. Without the flap, or with the flap on the inside it totally disappears. No way anyone, including those trying to spot a cc, would notice anything in there at all. Really love this gun, .380 is enough for me. 7 shots of golden sabers to the stomach and most likely that fight is over in 2 seconds.
Something you may want to think about. I was just reading some Gunsite training stuff and there was a recommendation to pop a couple to the head when using a 9mm or less. I did not completely agree with that, I've kind of trained myself to automatically put two center mass and then one to the head. Convinced me to change that to one to the body and two to the head. They gave lots of reasons but the biggy was you can pump a lot of lead into someone's body and they can keep right on fighting for long enough to take you out. I remember one example I read somewhere was even a BG shot with a perfect heart shot can still go for 30 seconds as if nothing happened. Plenty of time to shoot you, stab you, or even beat you pretty bad.
Pissed off with a load of adrenalin is a tough combination. At the 2 second mark many will not even know they have been shot yet. Lots of cop stories of BGs taking numerous hits from bigger stuff than a 380 and still fighting on. Just something to think about. It is amazing how some can be shot up pretty bad and keep functioning. Not many Nam combat vets that don't have a story or two about the charlie that took lots of 5.56 mm and just kept on coming.
 

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Once seen LEO in a suit get out of his unmarked unit with a shoulder harness.
 

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I spotted a guy in Wal-Mart yesterday. He was wearing a white T-shirt and I could plainly see the grip printing through it. Pointed it out to the Ms. , she didn't notice it until I told her. I guess I am more aware now, some of that could be jealousy though as I am still patiently waiting for my permit. ::)
 

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Great chart and good posts. I also love playing "spot the goon" at Walmart. I see myself on the chart in a few places, will have to modify that behaviour. I do tend to check my shirt hem too often in warm weather, and adjust grip position when exiting or entering the car. I tend to keep the strong side away not only to keep it clear for action (long odds on that), but mainly to prevent accidental contact that will prove the presence of the 1911 Colt. This is California and if spotted you will probably meet the local Cops. I live in the mountains and I always hear of people reporting to the Sheriff that they saw a bad man with a rifle walking in the forest in deer season. "Why yes, he did have an orange hat".
Got to handle my new LCP at the store yesterday and started the waiting period, unbelievable how small it is compared to the Colt. Weather will soon go from icy mornings to 100+ , and I will be ready for the wardrobe change.
 

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The key to abiding by the law here in Texas is to not intentionally fail to conceal. Where conceal means not openly discernable to the ordinary observation of a resonable person. Note the term reasonable person. It does not state trained obsever or LEO.
 

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As an experiment, I wore my LC9 in an LCP Remora to church. I had it in the 2:00 o'clock position tucked under a long sleeve, snap front western shirt. Walking, standing up, sitting down, standing, sitting (there is a lot of this at my wife's church), shaking hands, coffee hour,.... When we got home I asked her if she knew I was carrying. She looked me up and down and said, "You are?"

So, a holster that isn't made for the specific gun, not made to be tuckable, but worn that way, and in a very social setting, NO ONE noticed.

I would say unless it is very, very obvious, no one is going to see it.

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I've been carrying concealed for a few years now and I can count the other CC'ers I've seen on one hand. My thought is that if I carry and don't notice than those that don't carry really won't notice. One of the things that eases my mind is that Washington permits open carry. Although I don't open carry (if that's your thing than by all means) its nice to know I can't get in trouble if I'm printing or my shirt slips up.
 
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It figures! I'm sitting here wearing my NRA Tactical t-shirt as i type. Makes sense, why have an NRA or Glock, or whatever t-shirt or hat if you don't own one or support it. Seems like an easy way to get picked out? Gotta go change my shirt, Darn it!!! ; (
Tony
PS I always ask Mama if she can see anything before I go out carrying, beats the heck out of looking in a mirror!
 
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