<<Raises hand>> There's nothing wrong with the handgun with proper handling. I did not stop using my Old Model SBH either.
Since the Recall - How many still carry the LCP with ----
Since the Recall - How many still carry the LCP with one in the chamber? I for one do, I've carried a Glock for years and do not have a problem keep my finger off the trigger.
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Yup me too.... In the pipe
I carry mine in a concealed carry purse.....protected from impact..
I carry mine in a concealed carry purse.....protected from impact..
Mine also has one in in the pipe and will continue to right up to the shipping day.
I do.
Just a thought. Maybe you could turn the thread into a poll. Might be interesting.
Just a thought. Maybe you could turn the thread into a poll. Might be interesting.
I still do 
and will continue to carry until that little box shows up to take it away from me :'(
and will continue to carry until that little box shows up to take it away from me :'(Yup, I still do too.........
Generally, I would consider dropping ANY gun, loaded or not, a "really bad thing." Kinda like throwing your kids on the ground, ain't it?
Generally, I would consider dropping ANY gun, loaded or not, a "really bad thing." Kinda like throwing your kids on the ground, ain't it?
I do, and I honestly don't put a lot of though, or any worry, into it. I've never (knock on wood) dropped a gun, so I follow my normal behavior and don't think twice about it.
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Add me to the list. I still carry my LCP with one in the tube.
For the life of me I can not understand the purpose of the LCP and SR9 recalls. The owner's manual for both guns plainly warn the guns may discharge if dropped. So why the recall? Also the manual for my Mark III says the same thing, why are they not being recalled?
Something more has to be going on than what we are being told.
The LCP warning...
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The SR9 warning...
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And the Mark III warning...
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For the life of me I can not understand the purpose of the LCP and SR9 recalls. The owner's manual for both guns plainly warn the guns may discharge if dropped. So why the recall? Also the manual for my Mark III says the same thing, why are they not being recalled?
Something more has to be going on than what we are being told.
The LCP warning...
The SR9 warning...
And the Mark III warning...
I still carry my LCP because it works fine. No jams or mis-fires and that all I feel it needs do do to be a good carry gun.
Still in the pipe. Not in the habit of dropping any of my weapons or cutting myself with knives either!!
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probably not, for just posting a photo on the manual does not relieve you of the liability of a design that is failing or has failed. Ruger is one of the very few companies that IMO steps up to the plate maybe faster than many will ever think, of doing. I call this "responsibility". There is a gun ouT there with the same exact hammer block that the lcp has and over 300,000 of them out there and THEY claim no ISSUES. HUMM??????
jocko... it is a legal warning, not just a picture in a book. It's no different than a warning that may cause injury or death that is so often supplied with other products that are dangerous.
Ruger did not say anything about a part that is failing or has failed, only that there have been reports from the field of a few discharges.
I applaude Ruger for stepping up and taking action to improve their product, just wish to know the whole truth. Afterall, the same warning appears in the Mark III manual, yet it is not being recalled. To me, the recall and the warnings in their manuals don't line up on the same page. But then that's just me as I was the kid in the back row that used to ask all the questions and the Nun just kept saying... "you must have faith and not question everything you don't understand". Yep, the same Nun that would crack your knuckles with the edge of a yard stick. Hmmm... maybe that's the cause of painful joints in my left hand and not the other as I grow older. ;D
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Ruger did not say anything about a part that is failing or has failed, only that there have been reports from the field of a few discharges.
I applaude Ruger for stepping up and taking action to improve their product, just wish to know the whole truth. Afterall, the same warning appears in the Mark III manual, yet it is not being recalled. To me, the recall and the warnings in their manuals don't line up on the same page. But then that's just me as I was the kid in the back row that used to ask all the questions and the Nun just kept saying... "you must have faith and not question everything you don't understand". Yep, the same Nun that would crack your knuckles with the edge of a yard stick. Hmmm... maybe that's the cause of painful joints in my left hand and not the other as I grow older. ;D
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The LCP and SR9 are a bit different in purpose and intent as well. I'd wager that the LCP is carried often, and the MKII or MKIII are more used in shooting and plinking... and not carried. Different "handling" is required and assumed.
I hear what your saying, but a gun is a gun. Don't think your "differnent handling and assumed' theory will hold up. Any gun can be dropped... no matter what it's intended use is or how often it's used.Match10 said:The LCP and SR9 are a bit different in purpose and intent as well. I'd wager that the LCP is carried often, and the MKII or MKIII are more used in shooting and plinking... and not carried. Different "handling" is required and assumed.
Always keep one in the pipe also. I take this recall as a very good oppertunity for Ruger to update all the guns. They are getting a lot of them back for broken hammers, jamming, slide locks ect anyway so why not update them?
I don't carry my LCP daily...its lives in my truck in the center console and my SR9 lives right below it under the seat. Neither has one in the chamber...why? For the LCP its just a personal safety issue....I prefer not to keep on in the chamber with no other safety than a long trigger pull. That being said the drop issue doesn't worry me. However I will still use my LCP until it goes back to factory for recall.
As an owner cognizant of the Ruger safety notice of the occurance of drop accidental discharges (AD), and even an official recall to fix it, I feel it is imprudent to carry an LCP with one in the chamber and to put others and myself at unnecesary risk. Since Ruger has put me on notice about this safety issue, I, (not Ruger), would bear the full force of the law and total liability should an AD occur and cause injury or death to others.
I won't carry any firearm that I cannot safely pack with a chambered round. Therefore, I'll arm myself with my HK's until the LCP is fixed. HK's added safety is worth the small inconvenience of a little extra weight and an untucked shirt for a little while longer.
That being said, I feel the LCP and some of the ammo loads it fires has great potential. But, due to the various feeding and FTF issues and trigger problems, in addition to the drop AD problem, I feel it still isn't quite ready for the major leagues as a primary/sole CCW self defense weapon.
Hopefully, this recall will smooth out all the rough edges. In view of the great job Ruger did on the SR9 in that recall, I believe that Ruger will deliver a weapon that merits the "Ruger" name/reputation. I duty carried a SS 4" Ruger 357 for years. The thing was as solid as an anvil.
BTW, I believe that 99.9% of folks don't intentionally drop their weapons, and that it may seldom happen. But car accidents and body slams and fights, simple falls and other "bone jarring" occurances can and do happen.
I won't carry any firearm that I cannot safely pack with a chambered round. Therefore, I'll arm myself with my HK's until the LCP is fixed. HK's added safety is worth the small inconvenience of a little extra weight and an untucked shirt for a little while longer.
That being said, I feel the LCP and some of the ammo loads it fires has great potential. But, due to the various feeding and FTF issues and trigger problems, in addition to the drop AD problem, I feel it still isn't quite ready for the major leagues as a primary/sole CCW self defense weapon.
Hopefully, this recall will smooth out all the rough edges. In view of the great job Ruger did on the SR9 in that recall, I believe that Ruger will deliver a weapon that merits the "Ruger" name/reputation. I duty carried a SS 4" Ruger 357 for years. The thing was as solid as an anvil.
BTW, I believe that 99.9% of folks don't intentionally drop their weapons, and that it may seldom happen. But car accidents and body slams and fights, simple falls and other "bone jarring" occurances can and do happen.
Not very many LCP's are dropped. Not many of those dropped were dropped on a hard surface. Not many of those dropped on a hard surface discharged. Ruger has had "a few" reports of an accidental discharge from dropping it on a hard surface. But, how does one confirm those reports? How does one differentiate a trigger induced accidental discharge from a drop accidental discharge?HB Phil said:BTW, I believe that 99.9% of folks don't intentionally drop their weapons, and that it may seldom happen. But car accidents and body slams and fights, simple falls and other "bone jarring" occurances can and do happen.
I think you get my point. I think that Ruger did not have to issue a recall. I think they did so out of an abundance of caution and because that's the the kind of company they are.
If one analyzes other choices one makes in life, like wearing seat belts or talking on the phone while driving, or changing the radio station while driving, I wonder how the statistics compare with carrying one in the chamber in light of the few reports of an AD due to dropping? And the consequences are the same. Potential death to yourself, you family and others in the car you hit.
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