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I would be intersting to see how this "major manufacturer" can exceed/improve upon the energy of the three Bufallo Bore .380 rounds which incidently, feed perfectly in my LCP, the exception being the Buffalo Bore hard cast lead round. It (the BB 95 gr. JHC) remains my carry load of choice followed closely by the Golden Saber. Your mileage may differ. Still, I'll reserve final judgment when more info becomes available on this soon-to-be introduced (maybe) super round. Specs on BB:

http://www.buffalobore.com/ammunition/default.htm#380

Howard, thanks for posting this news.
 

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There are no SAAMI specs for .380 however theat didn't stop Buffalo Bore (BB) from pushing the envelope with their hot .380 rounds. Consequently, their use of the term "+P" is "literary license" at its best and I would think that the continuous use of the stuff would contribute to accelerated wear in P3AT and the LCP. Still, from my own personal experience with BB, both guns seem to handle it well and the energy delivered, equivalent to a .38 Special +P is impressive. Then again, there is no way to know how any given round will perform under every circumstance.
 

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Yes, I was referring to +P (I tend to type faster than my brain can activate). We are in agreement here. My thought however, is given the increased popularity of the .380 round due in large part to the high demand for the LCP, we are going to see other manufacturers attempt to push the ballistics envelope.
 

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ToddG said:
kraigster -- I'm all for that. I was talking to a local police department this weekend about the LCP, which some of their officers carry as a backup. We all like the ergonomics, and the department was very happy that all six of the pistols it bought worked flawlessly out of the box (more than most people expect from the LCP, though that is changing).

But we all lamented giving up j-frames as BUGs from a terminal ballistics standpoint. Hopefully, what Speer did for the .38 Sp +p with its 135gr NYPD load someone will do for the .380 and the LCP.
Todd, I think we are in for some interesting times with the .380. Gun related manufacturers are seeing dollar signs with the LCP and that will fuel R&D. By the way, I hope you are not with the Montgomery Co. PD and considering going out on a disabililty. ;D (local joke folks).
 

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leathersmith said:
Anybody see the "Outdoor" channel, last week; one of the shooting shows had a segment with Hornady rep. demonstrating a new 380 round they developed for "cycling ease, and stopping power." They did a test in ballastic gel with a down jacket in front of the gel. Penetration was claimed to exceed other brands. They said the hollow point is filled with a plastic or rubber material to prevent plugging up and interfering with expansion. The ammo box was labeled= Hornady 90080 Custom 380 Auto 90 Gr. FTX JHP Defense Round. They were using a LCP for the demo.
And there you go. :)

And there will be more.
 
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