[MountainGator]

Howdy folks, I’d like to enlist your help to build a database of sorts of the various states CCW Permit/License training requirements. Below are a couple questions, and if you could supply any information, it would be much appreciated.

1) Your State?
2) Does your state accept a DD214 as sufficient training?
3) Does your state accept a State or NRA Hunter Safety Training as sufficient?
4) Does your state accept any of the NRA Basic or First steps courses as sufficient?
5) If your state “requires” or accepts (in lieu of NRA training) it’s own course, did you have to fire a pistol?
a. If so, how many rounds did you have to fire?
b. At what distance from the target?
c. Was there a accuracy requirement? And if so what was it?
6) Is your Permit/License “Firearm specific”?

Thanks for any information you can offer.

StaySafe,
MG

 

[Guest]

Washington State:
No training required. All you have to do is fill out form at local Sheriff's office, pay $65 and be fingerprinted.
2-4 wks later after a background check you get your CPL in the mail. For an extra .75 they will even laminate it before they send it to you.

KB

 

[MountainGator]

I'll add Montana (since I think I'm the only MT poster here).

Montana accepts a DD-214
Montana accepts Hunter Safety training
Montana accepts and NRA firearm training course to include the Basic Home Firearm Safety course
There is no Montana CWP course.
There is no Firing requirement (since Hunter Safety & NRA HFS is accepted)
a Montana CWP is valid for any legal firearm plus a dirk, dagger, sword, etc.

 

[Tarheel]

North Carolina

1) Your State? NC

2) Does your state accept a DD214 as sufficient training? No, but must be submitted if you have served in any branch of the armed forces

3) Does your state accept a State or NRA Hunter Safety Training as sufficient? No

4) Does your state accept any of the NRA Basic or First steps courses as sufficient? No

5) If your state “requires” or accepts (in lieu of NRA training) it’s own course, did you have to fire a pistol? Yes, pistol or revolver...your choice
a. If so, how many rounds did you have to fire? 40
b. At what distance from the target? 3, 5 and 7 yards
c. Was there a accuracy requirement? And if so what was it? Must hit the target 28 of 40 rounds fired

6) Is your Permit/License “Firearm specific”? Labeled as "Concealed Handgun Permit". Not for any other weapon. No specific handgun is identified.

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Basic course: (Some instructors add additional requirements, but always meet the minimum NC 8 hour course minimum standards)

•NC concealed carry statute and legal issues
•Handgun safety
•Handguns in general
•Handgun fundamentals
•Marksmanship technique fundamentals
•Carrying concealed safety issues
•Presentation techniques (drawing your handgun)
•Cleaning and maintenance
•Ammunition
•Proficiency test live firing a handgun
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Virtually all courses I've checked out warn the potential that the course is not beginner handgun handling training. The student should be well qualified with the handgun he/she selects to use during the various aspects of the certification procedure.

Tarheel

 

[Guest]

Pennsylvania

There are no training requirements to have your LTCF issued. There is a $25.00 fee and a background check is required.

Your License To Carry A Firearm is not weapon specific,the license is good for 5 years and is a laminated picture card.

Your license also allows you to loan and borrow weapons between other LTCF personnel.

 

[jackjr]

1) Your State? AZ

2) Does your state accept a DD214 as sufficient training? Not that I could find.

3) Does your state accept a State or NRA Hunter Safety Training as sufficient? No

4) Does your state accept any of the NRA Basic or First steps courses as sufficient? No

5) If your state “requires” or accepts (in lieu of NRA training) it’s own course, did you have to fire a pistol? Yes, pistol or revolver...your choice
a. If so, how many rounds did you have to fire? 50
b. At what distance from the target? 3, 5, 7, and 10 yards Qualification was 5 rounds at 5 yards and 5 rounds at 10 yards. The rest were practice and instruction rounds.
c. Was there a accuracy requirement? And if so what was it? 7 rounds in the center of mass out of the 10 fired. TQ-15TC (C) targets were used. The rounds had to be inside the larger of the two areas.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.letargets.com/images/thumbnails/tq-15tc-c.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.letargets.com/estylez_ps.aspx%3Fsearchmode%3Dcategory%26searchcatcontext%3D~010000~010400~010403&usg=__XIY6oRi3TOU36SQJ5UFKb_0Jtsg=&h=75&w=50&sz=3&hl=en&start=1&itbs=1&tbnid=Wt3mYzhm9wZy3M:&tbnh=71&tbnw=47&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtq-15-TC%2B(C)%2Btarget%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1

Third target from the bottom of the page on the left side. (My Ex posed for it)

6) Is your Permit/License “Firearm specific”? No I believe it also covers some forms of knives but didn't find that information yet.

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Basic course: (Some instructors add additional requirements, but always meet the minimum AZ 8 hour course minimum standards) Our instructor also spent a couple of hours of question and answer time. She gave us demonstrations of self defence other than with a pistol too. (Knife and other things) Very instructive.

•AZ concealed carry statute and legal issues
•Handgun safety
•Handguns in general
•Handgun fundamentals
•Marksmanship technique fundamentals
•Carrying concealed safety issues
•Presentation techniques (drawing your handgun)
•Proficiency test live firing a handgun
•20 question multiple choice test with 18 as a passing score
•Fingerprints checked through the FBI database
•$60 fee to AZ Department of Public Safety
•Permit good for 5 years, no training required to renew
•As of July 29th. 2010 no permit will be required in Arizona for residents.

This was the best I could come up with. Hope it helps. Some others may have better information.
____________________________

 

[thisisit]

South Carolina
8 hours of training required by a State certified instructor. The instructor developed his own curriculum but it has to be approved by the State. There was also a 50 question fill in the blank or multiple choice test at the end of the day. All questions were covered thoroughly during the day. One had to be really stupid not to pass the test.
We also had a 50 shot range test.. Ten shots @ 3, 5 7, 10 +12 yards. The target was the standard black silhouette of a torso.
On both the written and shooting test the passing grade was 84%. Nobody in my class of 12 came close to failing.
The permit fee is $50 and it takes 3 months to get it because the State only has a staff of 2 people processing them.
Prior to the last election there were about 1,500 applicants per month now it is pushing about 4,600 per month. I wonder why??
What it boils down to in this state is you have the right to shoot if you or another are in mortal danger but be sure it is justified because it will be looked at closely.

 

[Bgoff689]

South Carolina
8 hours of training required by a State certified instructor. The instructor developed his own curriculum but it has to be approved by the State. There was also a 50 question fill in the blank or multiple choice test at the end of the day. All questions were covered thoroughly during the day. One had to be really stupid not to pass the test.
We also had a 50 shot range test.. Ten shots @ 3, 5 7, 10 +12 yards. The target was the standard black silhouette of a torso.
On both the written and shooting test the passing grade was 84%. Nobody in my class of 12 came close to failing.
The permit fee is $50 and it takes 3 months to get it because the State only has a staff of 2 people processing them.
Prior to the last election there were about 1,500 applicants per month now it is pushing about 4,600 per month. I wonder why??
What it boils down to in this state is you have the right to shoot if you or another are in mortal danger but be sure it is justified because it will be looked at closely.

The Fee is waivered for Disabled Vets, but of course proof from the VA is required. I shopped around and found an instructor that limited his class sizes to 6 only. The guy was a real professional and very conscious about weapons safety. I wasn't about to get myself ventilated in one of those "Oops!" moments by some rookie. The class room training was interesting for beginners with hands on instruction in both revolvers and semi automatic weapons training. I was more interested in getting all the information I could on State Laws and the "afterwards" part concerning use of force. The class fee was $100.00 and considering all the cost involved it's rather discriminating against someone who can't afford all that's involved. That's typical of gun control laws that politicians invoke to favor themselves, their supporters, and the criminal elements that they are supposed to be "protecting" us from.

 

[Ale-8]

1) Your State? Kentucky
2) Does your state accept a DD214 as sufficient training? NO
3) Does your state accept a State or NRA Hunter Safety Training as sufficient? NO
4) Does your state accept any of the NRA Basic or First steps courses as sufficient? NO
5) If your state “requires” or accepts (in lieu of NRA training) it’s own course, did you have to fire a pistol? YES, break it down & reassemble.
a. If so, how many rounds did you have to fire? 20 rounds
b. At what distance from the target? 7 yards
c. Was there a accuracy requirement? And if so what was it? hit a full size silhouette target 11 out of 20 rounds
6) Is your Permit/License “Firearm specific”? NO, all deadly weapons. If the weapon is illegal you would be in trouble for possesing it, not concealing it.

 

[Guest]

1) Your State? – Minnesota

2) Does your state accept a DD214 as sufficient training? – No

3) Does your state accept a State or NRA Hunter Safety Training as sufficient? – No

4) Does your state accept any of the NRA Basic or First steps courses as sufficient? – No

5) If your state “requires” or accepts (in lieu of NRA training) it’s own course, did you have to fire a pistol? – Yes.

a. If so, how many rounds did you have to fire? – 50 rounds, no mandatory number

b. At what distance from the target? – 15, 25, 50 ft – varies

c. Was there an accuracy requirement? And if so what was it? - 70%

6) Is your Permit/License “Firearm specific”? No. “Permit to Carry a Pistol”

http://www.dps.state.mn.us/bca/CJIS/documents/carrypermit/FAQs.html#Whatarerequirements

What are the requirements for getting a permit to carry?
· Must be at least 21 years of age
· Must complete an application form
· Must not be prohibited from possessing a firearm under Minnesota Statute 624.714
· Must not be listed in the criminal gang investigation system
· Must be a resident of the county from which you are requesting a permit, if you reside in Minnesota. Non-residents may apply to any Minnesota county sheriff.
· Must provide certificate of completed authorized firearms training. Training by a certified instructor and completed within one year of an original or renewal application. (624.714, Subd. 2a)

 

[Jeeper]

I was just in Ky visiting family. My brother in law has his CCW as well and we talked at length about our states different requirements.

Here in Va your only requirement to obtain your CCW (outside of not breaking any laws) is to take an NRS basic pistol safety class.

We took a written test from the NRA safety book, which we didn't have to pass but we went over each question. Than it was basically page by page from the NRA book. This was about four hours with questions.

Off to the range. We only had to demonstrate that we knew how to handle the gun safely. Two targets each from seated, one handed standing and two handed standing.

No minimum amount of hits on the target required.

We get the certificate signed by the instructor and off to the clerks office, fill out some minor paper work, pay the fee and a few weeks later after having the state police run a background check, the license come in the mail. Sign it, put in your wallet and you are legal to carry. Just carry this with your proper photo ID.

I do wish the state of Va would require the conceal carry laws be taught and what constitutes a threat to your life. This would be much better than leaving it to the individual to find out what the laws are.

Kentucky handbook even gives you a scenario on what to do if you are pulled over by the law and what to do when the officer approaches the car. Very good stuff.

 

[brettlt]

1) Your State? Oklahoma
2) Does your state accept a DD214 as sufficient training? I don't think so, but I am not sure what DD214 is referring to. There is an exemption for state licensed armed security officers.
3) Does your state accept a State or NRA Hunter Safety Training as sufficient? No
4) Does your state accept any of the NRA Basic or First steps courses as sufficient? No
5) If your state “requires” or accepts (in lieu of NRA training) it’s own course, did you have to fire a pistol? Yes
a. If so, how many rounds did you have to fire? 50
b. At what distance from the target? Not sure, I don't think it is written in the law.
c. Was there a accuracy requirement? And if so what was it? No, I don't think so.
6) Is your Permit/License “Firearm specific”? Type specific. If you fire a revolver, then you can only carry a revolver. If you fire a semi-auto, then you can carry a semi-auto, revolver, or derringer.

I did not actually take the CC permit class. I became an armed guard, and in doing so, I was exempt from the CCP class. The CCP class is 8 hours long. My training was 32 hours and it did have a specific course of fire. I also had to score a 75 out of 100. (I had the second highest score in class, 95.) One guy out of the 30 was able to get a 100. It involved shooting from 1 yard to 25 yards, with kneeling, and weak hand shooting at 25 yards. It was about 35 degrees on the day we did our shooting and our instructors did not allow you to wear gloves.

 

[Tarheel]

....Brett, the DD214 is the discharge document issued when one has completed, or partially completed, their contract in one of the armed forces branches. It has all the info about the individual, the most important being the condition of discharge...honorable, general (under honorable conditions, such as unavoidable medical, dependency or hardship issues), bad conduct and dishonorable...the latter two only being invoked at the order of a military tribunal and sometimes referred to collectively as other-than-honorable discharge.

Tarheel

 

[stilch]

State: Alabama.
No courses, certification, or written tests required.
Just a $10 fee, (same amount yearly for renewal)
and a background check. First time applicants wait
3 to 4 weeks for processing; after that yearly renewal
by mail takes only a couple of days. Laminated permit
with picture costs a little extra.
Not firearm specific.
I like it here.

 

[MountainGator]

Ok, I'll add Florida since I have one & the folks down there didnt' reply...
1) Your State? Florida
2) Does your state accept a DD214 as sufficient training? Yes
3) Does your state accept a State or NRA Hunter Safety Training as sufficient? Yes
4) Does your state accept any of the NRA Basic or First steps courses as sufficient? Yes (ANY NRA Firearm course)
5) If your state “requires” or accepts (in lieu of NRA training) it’s own course, did you have to fire a pistol?
a. If so, how many rounds did you have to fire?
b. At what distance from the target?
c. Was there a accuracy requirement? And if so what was it?
There is also a non-NRA course which is taught entensively in Florida. It is not that much different than the NRA First Steps course (2 hours). It requires that one round be fired with NO accuracy requirement... only that NONE of the safety rules be violated!
6) Is your Permit/License “Firearm specific”?
No. The Florida License is a Concealed Weapons and Firearm License and covers any/all handguns, electronic weapons or devices, tear gas guns, knives, and billies.
StaySafe,
MG

 

[M_E_]

In 6 more weeks, we are NOT going to need ANY training for CCW !!

I do NOT agree with this for obvious reasons. I do it for a living! We will have a drop in customers for a while but most intelligent people will realize that they should have SOME training. Even my retired FBI agent friend went 3 weeks ago & got trained. I was busy & he preferred to get trained by a stranger.

 

[Guest]

For Texas: http://www.austinrfa.com/range_prof.htm

Basically, you need instruction and qualification. If you qualify with a revolver, you can only carry a revolver. If you qualify with a semi-auto then you can carry either.

The permit expires and you have to requalify and regesiter.

I agree with M_E_. I used to live in Indiana. All you did there was send an application to the State Police and if you don't have a record, you get one.

I was in LE for some time. After getting their training, I definitely see the advantage.

Bruce

 

[ThePocketHolster.com]

Ohio Requirements: (http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/ohio-ccw-application-checklist)
"Applying for an Ohio Concealed Handgun License can be confusing. However, if you follow this Ohio CCW Application Checklist, you can make the process faster and easier.

1. Make sure you meet the basic requirements before applying for an Ohio Concealed Handgun License:

* You must be at least 21 years of age.
* You must be an Ohio resident for at least 45 days.
* You must be a resident of the county of application (or an adjacent county) for at least 30 days.

2. Find a qualified CCW instructor and complete the required 12-hour course to obtain your Certificate of Competency.

* Your Certificate of Competency must be no more than 3 years old to qualify for a concealed handgun license. If you apply for your concealed handgun license prior to one year of issuance, your training competency certificate will also be good for your first renewal of your license, five years later.
* You may also present documentation that proves you are an active or reserve member of the U.S. Military, you have been honorably discharged from the U.S. Military within the past 6 years, or you a retired law enforcement officer and have experience handling handguns that is equivalent to the training requirements.

3. Read the Attorney General's pamphlet on Ohio's concealed carry laws. You should get a printed copy during your training course.

4. Locate the sheriff's office in your county (or an adjacent county) and pick up an application for an Ohio Concealed Handgun License. OR locate the sheriff's or Attorney General's Web site and download the application.

NOTE: Do NOT bring a firearm with you when picking up your application.

5. Have a passport-sized (2" x 2") color photo taken within 30 days of your application date. You may get a passport-sized photo at many photo shops, drug stores, groceries, Kinko's, and similar businesses that handle photo development. Most Sheriff's Departments will also accept a good quality colored photo taken with a digital camera and printed off of a color printer.

6. Call the sheriff's office to make an appointment to apply for your license.

7. Take your documents to the sheriff's office and apply for your license. As part of your application, you must:

* Present your completed application, Certificate of Competency (or documentation of equivalent experience), and passport sized color photo.
* Present a valid photo I.D., such as your driver's license.
* Pass a criminal background check and mental competency check.
* Submit to having your fingerprints electronically scanned or inked and rolled onto a card.
* Attest that you have read the Attorney General's pamphlet on Ohio's concealed carry laws.
* Pay a non-refundable fee by cash, money order, or certified check made payable to your sheriff's office. The fee is $67.00 if you have been an Ohio resident for more than five years, $92.00 if less than five years."

As ex-US Army Infantryman it was unclear in Ohio (no matter who I called) if your DD214 takes place of your 12-hour course to obtain your Certificate of Competency, (although is does say "documentation that proves you are an active or reserve member of the U.S. Military, you have been honorably discharged from the U.S. Military within the past 6 years (which I was)") so I took the course for $100

 

[snake]

In 6 more weeks, we are NOT going to need ANY training for CCW !!

I do NOT agree with this for obvious reasons. I do it for a living! We will have a drop in customers for a while but most intelligent people will realize that they should have SOME training. Even my retired FBI agent friend went 3 weeks ago & got trained. I was busy & he preferred to get trained by a stranger.

I really hope that the folks will take the money they saved not having to get a permit and use that for some practical training. I shoot with a former LEO - firearms instructor - range officer and he gives me good advice everytime we shoot. And I've been shooting almost forever. ;D
Plus, there are still a lot of advantages to getting a permit such as not having to get a background check every time you buy a gun.

Snake

 

[Nitrodave08]

1) Your State? WY
2) Does your state accept a DD214 as sufficient training? Yes
3) Does your state accept a State or NRA Hunter Safety Training as sufficient? Unknown
4) Does your state accept any of the NRA Basic or First steps courses as sufficient? Unknown
5) If your state “requires” or accepts (in lieu of NRA training) it’s own course, did you have to fire a pistol?
a. If so, how many rounds did you have to fire?
b. At what distance from the target?
c. Was there a accuracy requirement? And if so what was it?
6) Is your Permit/License “Firearm specific”? No

WY also allows RESIDENTS to conceal without permit