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Does anyone have experience with any of the fingerprint recognition pistol safes?

I saw a few bioMetrx products that look pretty slick.
http://www.gunsafes.com/BioBox.html

I have a Cannon Safe currently, and it works ok for bedside at night.

But I sure like the idea of swiping a thumb across for access instead of a key combination in middle of the night if it really works as advertised.
 

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In spite of the continuing advance in the technology, success rate with biometrics is still highly dependent on the user. I suggest that you personally test anything with a biometric reader to see how it works for you. Also, the reader must work when you are under stress, so sweaty fingers are also to be tried.

Good luck.
 

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kaisersosa said:
Does anyone have experience with any of the fingerprint recognition pistol safes?

I saw a few bioMetrx products that look pretty slick.
http://www.gunsafes.com/BioBox.html

I have a Cannon Safe currently, and it works ok for bedside at night.

But I sure like the idea of swiping a thumb across for access instead of a key combination in middle of the night if it really works as advertised.
noe but I did sleep at the holiday inn last week ;D ;D

I owned one of those safes with 5 buttons that you set in a sequence to suit yor needs, worked great until about a year ago whenI forgot the sequence, Had to beat it to death to get it open needless to say ruined a good safe. guess that comes with age-huh....
 
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I have two of the traditional four fingers units, and they work fine, but they do slow you down. I keep the back up key in the gun vault. Same memory /age issue.

Seems tempting, but I would never trust my safety to the whims of consumer quality finger print readers. We checked on using industrial quality units to allow acces to control settings on some of our equipment, and ended up dumping the project. I can only imagine how low cost readers would work. Even if they worked every time during testing, I would not sleep easy.

I wonder how the laptop readers work, they have been out for a while, maybe someone has one that works, but I would still feel very uneasy. I always wondered how people use trigger locks, maybe just for storage.

John
 

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Had to beat it to death to get it open needless to say ruined a good safe.

Ouch Jocko, that sucks indeed.

That would be just like me to do the same and end up looking like the Samsonite luggage gorilla trying to break back into it. <Old school '70s commercial reference>
 

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I puchased a DAC Sportsafe - it's a four button - from walmart.com about 2 years ago for about $70.

I am really pleased with mine. I was startled from my sleep a few weeks ago and had to put in the code 3 times before i got it right...luckily it wasn't a life threatening situation. ( GF was screaming bloody murder for some help after she had twisted her ancle )

As for the biometrics, I wouldn't get one unless you would be 150% sure it would work the first time. every time.
 

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I used to install biometric fingerprint readers for access systems. Most of the time they work just fine but out of an office of 20 people at least one or two folks it will just not work reliably at all for. Hmmm, maybe they were aliens.....Anyway try it out to see if it works for you first if at all possible.
 

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I use a gun vault(uses a four button sequence or a key) ever since I had it, I always worried about being able to punch in code in the dark in a high stress situation. I practiced in the dark, setting up a senario, was able to do it(but still not sold on it, because its not a real situation) So, what I do, is either leave key in safe or leave safe open at night, and just take the key and lock it in morning before I leave for work. I would recommend the Gun Vault, not very big but big enough and great if you have kids especially small ones. Rob
 

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I have two of the four button gun safes. One in my computer room, one on my night stand. At night, I leave the door open to the night stand and put my LCP in on top of my M&P 9. Both are in ready 1 and have extra loaded magazines beside them. When I get up, the LCP goes in the front pocket and I close the door to the gun safe.

In addition, I have a small (about 2 ft tall) fingerprint recognition safe I bought at Harbor Freight. It has the four push button process for opening along with fingerprint recognition. Once I figured out how to program it, the finger print recognition works fine. As back up I have the buttons and as back up for that I have keys. It's a pretty nice, inexpensive unit.

As a side note reminder to be safe out there, my 1 1/2 year old grandson watched me while I was testing the fingerprint process. The safe was empty at the time. When I locked the safe and walked away, he pushed the correct activation button and put his finger where it should be to open the safe. Of course it wouldn't open because it wasn't programmed for him. My point is, if there are little ones around, don't underestimate their powers of observation. I imagine that they could pick up the four button program just by watching.

I can hardly wait for the time when he and I can go to the range together.
 

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I have a permanently affixed gun safe in my everyday vehicle, a V-line brand 5 push button type works great. This is so I can place my carry weapon in when I can't have it with me. Also a center of mass with lock and cable that I travel with when not in my vehicle. A pushbutton combination / key override safe in the bedroom with a XD-40 SC readily available. A larger gun safe that has all my other guns, in a room I can lock and stuffed in a enclosure that would make it difficult if not impossible to to access without the keys to the 2 different type locks on it. All keys are with me at all times, never leave home with out them.
I became extremly gun safe after my grand kids moved in with us about 20 years ago and have remained that way since. No one but myself should ever have access to my guns.
 

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I have a permanently affixed gun safe in my everyday vehicle, a V-line brand 5 push button type works great. This is so I can place my carry weapon in when I can't have it with me. Also a center of mass with lock and cable that I travel with when not in my vehicle. A pushbutton combination / key override safe in the bedroom with a XD-40 SC readily available. A larger gun safe that has all my other guns, in a room I can lock and stuffed in a enclosure that would make it difficult if not impossible to to access without the keys to the 2 different type locks on it. All keys are with me at all times, never leave home with out them.
I became extremly gun safe after my grand kids moved in with us about 20 years ago and have remained that way since. No one but myself should ever have access to my guns.
Which V-line do you have in your vehicle?

Anyone else have any good vehicle mount safes? I'm personally looking for a small, compact front opening safe that would mount under a truck seat
 

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DesertPunisher425 said:
Anyone else have any good vehicle mount safes? I'm personally looking for a small, compact front opening safe that would mount under a truck seat
I know this is old, but Tuffy Security (http://www.tuffyproducts.com/default.aspx) makes a lot of awesome security storage products for Chevy, Dodge, and Ford trucks. They just released an awesome under seat storage drawer for Jeeps (http://www.tuffyproducts.com/p-282-247-tuffy-jk-conceal-carry-security-drawer.aspx) that I am going to be ordering soon.
 

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I'm still not sold on the fingerprint recognition. My hands are always taking a beating and wonder if a new cut or blister would affect the recognition.
I have the four button Gun Vault. I can open in about a second, but you have to learn to push firmly, deliberately otherwise you get rejected for a timed period. I change batteries once a year, and open it daily without fail. Backup key is stored elsewhere.
 

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Amazon has almost 60% off a Barska Biometric, but checking some You Tube videos shows me it is really not ideal for storing a weapon. The beeps are bad enough, but even if you can program them out you would have the weapon in hand from a Gun Vault 4 button before you could get that Barska open. I've had the Gun Vault Deluxe for years and it's still a great unit. Gun Vault does have a biometric now also that looks to be just as fast as the manual 4 button model I have.

 

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I have the microvault biometric safe. It has worked great for me. It is big enough for two LCP's and two spare mags. Every once in a great while I have to swipe twice, and there is always the key access for backup. Even swiping twice is quicker than about any other method of securing a firearm. It looks like the simple thin line reader that is on laptops where you swipe your finger. I have a rambunctious 3 year old that is just learning to climb everything, so NOT having a safe is absolutely not an option.

The only negative is a slight "beep" when you push the button to activate the reader, and a slight double beep when it recognizes the finger . I havent looked in to either disabling the speaker or adding a resistor or something to make it just barely audible. maybe even just a layer or two of duct tape over it would be fine, but it is hidden in the innner workings of the small electonics compartment.

Also you can program in up to 20 different fingerprints, so if you scuff up your hands regularly doing real work you can "enroll" your pinky or ring fingers also. they seem to take less abuse than the index or middle fingers.

This is one area that an RFID tag on a watch, ring or something would be cool technology. We have those keyless entry badges at my place of work and they seem to always work for me. Would never want it on the gun, but the safe is another matter.
 

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HowardCohodas said:
In spite of the continuing advance in the technology, success rate with biometrics is still highly dependent on the user. I suggest that you personally test anything with a biometric reader to see how it works for you. Also, the reader must work when you are under stress, so sweaty fingers are also to be tried.

Good luck.
ABSOLUTELY TRUE!!!!
 

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I would not trust the biometric. I had the fingerprint recognition on a top of the line laptop. I set up it for the index finger of my right hand. Sometimes, just for grins, I would try it with my left index finger. More than 1/2 of the time it worked. So, besides not recognizing your print in a crisis, it might recognize someone's it shouldn't. FWIW.
 

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I have a R&D Enterprises pistol safe with a push-button Simplex lock, but they are not longer in business. V-Line has a handfull safes w/the Simplex lock, but they are made with a lighter gauge steel. Ft. Knox makes a very nice looking pistol safe ( http://www.ftknox.com/redesign/pistolboxes/ ) with a Simplex lock and 10 gauge steel.

With practice, I can open my pistol safe very quickly with my eyes closed (takes practice of course).

Regards,

Rob
 
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