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Having shot all my life, have begun carrying for self defense. Living in shorts and tee shirt half the time the LCP is THE perfect size and weight for pocket pistols. I will never understand why all the other gun makers have nothing quite as light and small as the LCP, and they all cost a whole lot more. The .380 round is problematic, but with Underwood Xtreme Penetrator 90 gr moving at advertised speed of 1,100 I think the penetration problem is solved, and the x-nose design appears effective.
 

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Welcome to the forum from Orlando Florida.
 

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Welcome from Louisiana! Good to have you!

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Reference size and price, don't forget, the LCP seems to have been copied from the Kel Tec P-3AT.
 

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Having shot all my life, have begun carrying for self defense. Living in shorts and tee shirt half the time the LCP is THE perfect size and weight for pocket pistols. I will never understand why all the other gun makers have nothing quite as light and small as the LCP, and they all cost a whole lot more. The .380 round is problematic, but with Underwood Xtreme Penetrator 90 gr moving at advertised speed of 1,100 I think the penetration problem is solved, and the x-nose design appears effective.
Do NOT use that ammo in an LCP. It is definitely loaded hotter than "standard" 90gr. loads for the .380 ACP cartridge and could very easily cause the pistol to come apart as it is being shot especially if a lot of it was shot in the pistol.
 

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Do NOT use that ammo in an LCP. It is definitely loaded hotter than "standard" 90gr. loads for the .380 ACP cartridge and could very easily cause the pistol to come apart as it is being shot especially if a lot of it was shot in the pistol.
Where have all the LCPs gone,
That fired hot ammo,
Where have all the LCPs gone,
Long time ago,
Where have all the LCPs gone,
Shot to pieces every one.
When will they ever learn,
When will they ever learn.

(Sung to the tune of "Where Have All the Flowers Gone")
 

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Reverting back Bruce, are we ?
 

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Pete Seeger wrote the original version of "Where Have All the Flowers Gone" with additional verses by Joe Hickerson. The Kingston Trio popularized it followed by Peter, Paul and Mary. It became an anthem of the anti-Vietnam War movement. By the way, I've heard tell that the Kingston Trio sold more albums than any other group in history. I don't know if that's true, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is.
 

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I've heard tell that the Kingston Trio sold more albums than any other group in history. I don't know if that's true, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is.
Did you play with them ?
 

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Nope, but I listened to them a lot. Their list of hits is as long as my arm. They won a Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award in 2010 and their first hit, "Tom Dooley", is listed as a Library of Congress Historically Significant Recording. There could easily have been others.
 

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Welcome from up in the Panhandle.
 

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OK - there are other copper x designs from Lehigh and Underwood. Otherwise, what I see online rate hollow points in .380 lacking in penetration power overall, and are even worse if they hit clothing, or any other barrier.

The only other design that gets the best penetration is ball, and that lacks the wound channel size to be as effective as more powerful calibers. What do you recommend?
 

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FMJ and make the shot count .
 

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Do NOT use that ammo in an LCP. It is definitely loaded hotter than "standard" 90gr. loads for the .380 ACP cartridge and could very easily cause the pistol to come apart as it is being shot especially if a lot of it was shot in the pistol.

OK Skip what do you recommend?
 
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