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neither is a Smith #340 ;Dragu1macrider said:
I'm confused. So your saying I will be able to afford the LCR because I'm rich... Or a Republican?testman said:I BELIEVE THAT THE RUGER LCR STANDS FOR "LIGHT CARRY REPUBLICAN";BECAUSE ONLY THE RICH WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT.![]()
what Smith airweight are u comparing the lcr to. The Smith #340 weight 12 ounces, that is 1.5 ounces lighter and no polymer. The trigger is Rugers hype, that remains to be seen to. Still 11# pull, and any J frame owner can certainly smooth up his trigger with little or no effort. Not knocking the lcr, for it is certainly different but they are going up against the king of pocket revolvers the J frame.habanero said:I read everything I could find about this new gun last night and I just can't seem to get real excited about it. First, it's only 1.5 oz. lighter than the smith airweight. I would have thought that using a polymer and milling all that steel off the cylinder it would have been less. Second, I'm not real comfortable with all the pieces, seems to me the more parts the more chance for something to get loose. That aluminum to polymer frame connection point just looks like a problem waiting to happen. The only major advantage I see is the trigger is supposed to be much better than anything else out there. An extra $267 for the crimson trace seems a little steep also ($525 w/o, $792 w). Anyway, I will be anxiously awaiting the reports from those that get them.
I got that weight from here http://www.snubnose.info/docs/m642.htm it was the 642. The design ruger has is definitely something new but nowadays "new" does not necessarily equate to "better" and most times it just means "cheaper to produce". I agree they have a fight on their hands trying to go up against the j frame.jocko said:what Smith airweight are u comparing the lcr to. The Smith #340 weight 12 ounces, that is 1.5 ounces lighter and no polymer. The trigger is Rugers hype, that remains to be seen to. Still 11# pull, and any J frame owner can certainly smooth up his trigger with little or no effort. Not knocking the lcr, for it is certainly different but they are going up against the king of pocket revolvers the J frame.habanero said:I read everything I could find about this new gun last night and I just can't seem to get real excited about it. First, it's only 1.5 oz. lighter than the smith airweight. I would have thought that using a polymer and milling all that steel off the cylinder it would have been less. Second, I'm not real comfortable with all the pieces, seems to me the more parts the more chance for something to get loose. That aluminum to polymer frame connection point just looks like a problem waiting to happen. The only major advantage I see is the trigger is supposed to be much better than anything else out there. An extra $267 for the crimson trace seems a little steep also ($525 w/o, $792 w). Anyway, I will be anxiously awaiting the reports from those that get them.
Well, comparing the lcr to the 640 goes one step farther to strengthening my opinion. Why buy the "new" lcr design at 13.5 oz. when you can have an "old" 640 j frame design at 12 oz. that has been proven reliable for many years. The lcp filled the need for a more reliable keltec, I seriously doubt the lcr will be earn the reputation as more reliable than the j frame. That said, the considerable price difference will probably sell a lot of these guns. If, after a couple of years, my fear of that frame connection proves unwarranted I may buy one myself. I kind of like the look of it.jocko said:no problem, just wasn't sure what Smith J frame you were referring. to. Probalby for comparison purposes should have listed Smith's lightest J frame compared to the new ruger lcr.
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no harm no foul.
I would question our moderatros to consider the lcr as another gun to be added to the elsie forum, for it is new, it will be bought by many, why not be the first forum to issue it a welcome, and by that I do not mean just a lcr thread.
Maybe: elsie peaforum.com/lcr forum
Are you certain about your figures? I can't believe an all steel 357 (640) is 1 and 1/2 ounces lighter than an aluminum and polymer frame gun.habanero said:Well, comparing the lcr to the 640 goes one step farther to strengthening my opinion. Why buy the "new" lcr design at 13.5 oz. when you can have an "old" 640 j frame design at 12 oz. that has been proven reliable for many years. The lcp filled the need for a more reliable keltec, I seriously doubt the lcr will be earn the reputation as more reliable than the j frame. That said, the considerable price difference will probably sell a lot of these guns. If, after a couple of years, my fear of that frame connection proves unwarranted I may buy one myself. I kind of like the look of it.jocko said:no problem, just wasn't sure what Smith J frame you were referring. to. Probalby for comparison purposes should have listed Smith's lightest J frame compared to the new ruger lcr.
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no harm no foul.
I would question our moderatros to consider the lcr as another gun to be added to the elsie forum, for it is new, it will be bought by many, why not be the first forum to issue it a welcome, and by that I do not mean just a lcr thread.
Maybe: elsie peaforum.com/lcr forum