CTC has been working with Ruger for quite a while now on the LCP project. They made several changes to the gun frame to accommodate our lasergrip. We have shot over 500 rounds so far, usually in 150 round sessions. Even though the weight is only slightly more than the S&W scandium the felt recoil is similar the the aluminum framed smith. The trigger pull is very smooth and the gun performed with no issues for us. All of our testing was with 38SP ball ammo, no +P. We are in the process of building the second production run of LG411 grips so some guns must be out there in the market place. I am looking forward to seeing the first reviews of the gun and our lasergrip.