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I am very disappointed with Ruger. My LCP was functioning like a champ before they "FIXED" it. Now the mag releases with the finger extentions installed. Today with the non-finger extended mags I went shooting and the takedown pin spring broke and the pin fell out. I found the pin but I had to send the gun back to RUGER again.

I loved the gun before they FIXED it. Now I'm not so sure. I may get it back and sell it before something else breaks. Right now it is NOT reliable for a defensive weapon.

Should I stick with it 'til the weapon is reliable or should I cut my losses and buy something else I can stake my life on????

Has anyone else had a new design gun that had problems and the manufacture actually did fix the problems and make it reliable???

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Sorry to hear about your problems. I've had to send 2 guns back to Ruger for repair and they fixed both w/o batting an eye even though one was a "HOT" ammo issue (cracked cylinder on my Alaskan) which they could have drawn the line at. I had to send my Springfield 1911 back TWICE before it would run more than 200 rounds w/o something breaking. No comfort, and I understand your frustration. Anything mechanical can and will break, and for me it happens all too frequently it seems.

I don't think the mag/takedown pin issue is related but I would write a list of every single issue you're having as sometimes they just fix what they see on the surface and I suspect that they're a bit busy with 2 recalls underway right now. Send it back and run a couple of hundred rounds thru it and see what happens. Maybe they'll get it right this time.
 

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It seems most everyone is having problems with the mag extensions so that problem is not isolated to just your gun. Now as for the retaining spring, from what I've read there have been a few cases of this problem occuring but it's not a common problem. I believe I would call Ruger and see if they would just send the spring to you and replace it yourself. That would save you from having to send it in again. My LCP has always worked perfectly before and after it was sent in. Sounds like you are just having a run of bad luck for sure!
 

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I haven't signed up for the recall and dont wanna send my gun in! She's FLAWLESS!!!!!
 

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"It seems most everyone is having problems with the mag extensions so that problem is not isolated to just your gun."

Not sure that's an accurate statement. Many of us have gone through every available finger extension from the Bersa, to the Keltec, to the NAA, to the Pearce and the Ruger OEM with no problems whatsoever.
 

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I know what you mean about it being flawless. Mine was perfect until I sent it in. The only reason I did was so that some hot-shot lawyer couldn't hang neglegance on me if I ever dropped it and it hurt someone.
I can hear it now," there was a known defect that was recalled and you chose not to responde to the recall...."
I know, it's a sad day that I have to worry about lawyers trying to screw you.
 

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captainrichhill said:
I am very disappointed with Ruger. My LCP was functioning like a champ before they "FIXED" it. Now the mag releases with the finger extentions installed. Today with the non-finger extended mags I went shooting and the takedown pin spring broke and the pin fell out. I found the pin but I had to send the gun back to RUGER again.

I loved the gun before they FIXED it. Now I'm not so sure. I may get it back and sell it before something else breaks. Right now it is NOT reliable for a defensive weapon.

Should I stick with it 'til the weapon is reliable or should I cut my losses and buy something else I can stake my life on????

Has anyone else had a new design gun that had problems and the manufacture actually did fix the problems and make it reliable???

Please give me you feedback.
did you find the broken take down pin spring. In all my years of kt ownership which uses the same take down pin spring and of the over 60,000 lcps, YOURS is the first take down spring that has broken that I have ever read about and kt has over 300,000 of those puppies floating around out there. I am wondering if that take down spring did not slip out of its position and therefore will not hold the take down pin in. that can happen and has happened, but breaking, never heard of it
 

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"It seems most everyone is having problems with the mag extensions so that problem is not isolated to just your gun."

Not sure that's an accurate statement. Many of us have gone through every available finger extension from the Bersa, to the Keltec, to the NAA, to the Pearce and the Ruger OEM with no problems whatsoever.
it is not an accurate statment, not even close...
 

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I got a voicemail from a nice Lady at Ruger. She didn't mention what the call was about (but by the timing it's a pretty strong assumption that it was for the recall). I called her back. Twice. Didn't answer either time. Didn't respond to my voicemails. I fulfilled my "legal" obligation....
 

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captainrichhill said:
I am very disappointed with Ruger. My LCP was functioning like a champ before they "FIXED" it. Now the mag releases with the finger extentions installed. Today with the non-finger extended mags I went shooting and the takedown pin spring broke and the pin fell out. I found the pin but I had to send the gun back to RUGER again.

I loved the gun before they FIXED it. Now I'm not so sure. I may get it back and sell it before something else breaks. Right now it is NOT reliable for a defensive weapon.

Should I stick with it 'til the weapon is reliable or should I cut my losses and buy something else I can stake my life on????

Has anyone else had a new design gun that had problems and the manufacture actually did fix the problems and make it reliable???

Please give me you feedback.
peddle the pinkie extension magazine. You stated the standard magazines worked ok. I know for a fact that the kel tec has issues with pinkie extensions also. Most owners either fixed it themselves or just went back to the regular floor plate. I never was a fan of the pinkie extension for ccw carry anyhow. but that is just my opinion. Mine works perfect in my lcp with over 200 rounds through it, but I use if for range use, nothing else, not because I don't trust it, I just don't care for it enought to want to carry it that way..

Al that being said, u are not confident with your lcp now, so IMO you should just peddle it and move on to a gun that pleases u. Once you loose confidence in a product it is very hard to regain that trust, doesnt' have to be a gun either, all products work the same way when it comes to trusting them. I will not carry a gun that I cannot trust so I am not insulting you when I say peddle it. Advertise it on the elsie forum and it will sell asap. These little guns will not please 100% of the people, no way that is going to happen
 

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Mine gets shipped out tomorrow and I included a large sheet of paper requesting a standard floor plate on the magazine they send me. I have no problem shooting mine as it came with a flat plate. I may not get the flat plate model magazine but if I did not ask I surely wouldn't get one.
 

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jocko said:
kraigster414 said:
"It seems most everyone is having problems with the mag extensions so that problem is not isolated to just your gun."

Not sure that's an accurate statement. Many of us have gone through every available finger extension from the Bersa, to the Keltec, to the NAA, to the Pearce and the Ruger OEM with no problems whatsoever.
it is not an accurate statment, not even close...
I probably should not have said "most everyone" but there have been a lot of complaints, and not just on this forum, concerning the pinkie extensions causing the mags to pull free and fall out during firing. I personally have never used any pinkie extensions on my LCP nor my former P3AT when it was my concealment gun nor do I plan to. There have been enough complaints from other owners to concern me to the point that I had rather not try them and possibly damage the magazine release of my gun. I can fully understand the physics and dynamics of what happens when the gun recoils and applies the undue pressure to the magazine release caused by the pinkie extensions. As a matter of fact I traded another member of this forum the new one sent back with my gun to a flat one. It may not happen immediately when you begin shooting your gun with the pinkie extensions buy I personally believe it will happen sooner or later. Its a matter of metal v/s plastic and 99.9% of the time metal will win the battle. Thats MHO anyway.
 

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Not to beat a dead horse but almost a thousand rounds have been fired through my LCP, all with pinky extensions, not one single problem. Am I just lucky or is the law of averages on my side?
 

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Not to beat a dead horse but almost a thousand rounds have been fired through my LCP, all with pinky extensions, not one single problem. Am I just lucky or is the law of averages on my side?
tell that to TAPHANDLE, most understand where your coming from....
 

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I did find the takedown pin just hanging barely in the hole. I could drop the takedown pin in and just turn the gun over and it would just fall out. I showed it to the gunsmith at the range he said the spring was either broken or malfunctioning.
There was a post on this forum regarding Ruger using non-gunsmith people to perform the recall work. I feel they either installed the pin incorrectly or damaged it by putting in the takedown pin. It has to be inserted into the hole on an angle to avoid putting stress in the retainer spring. I guess you get the type of worker you pay for (unskilled).
At least I have another CC gun (USPc .40), It's just more cumbersome then the LCP. That's the exact reason I bought the LCP.
 

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I did find the takedown pin just hanging barely in the hole. I could drop the takedown pin in and just turn the gun over and it would just fall out. I showed it to the gunsmith at the range he said the spring was either broken or malfunctioning.
There was a post on this forum regarding Ruger using non-gunsmith people to perform the recall work. I feel they either installed the pin incorrectly or damaged it by putting in the takedown pin. It has to be inserted into the hole on an angle to avoid putting stress in the retainer spring. I guess you get the type of worker you pay for (unskilled).
At least I have another CC gun (USPc .40), It's just more cumbersome then the LCP. That's the exact reason I bought the LCP.
Let's be fair. What you are saying about Ruger using "non-gunsmith people to perform the recall work" is pure conjecture and because someone posted to the effect here or elsewhere does not make it true. Ruger would not delegate this responsibility to individuals who did not possess the requisite skills or training to perform the work required. You simply don't that if you are an established company with a reputation to uphold. Certainly not with firearms. Enough of that.

Call Ruger and discuss. Send your gun in if so directed and get it fixed. You are not going to find another gun company with better customer service
 

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Like kraigster414 says send 'er in if not satisfied. Ruger will make it right, great company, no part-timers fixing your weapon. Had a few problems with my recalled but was able to solve myself. Around 200 rounds after my fix now no problems. If I had still had those problems I'd of had no worry Ruger fixing it.
 
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