Am I missing something? Maybe it is the way I define "Survival" vs "Self Defense" For survival I have a marlin bolt in 22 mag. With it I can take a variety of small game and under the right circumstances a deer. That will keep meat on the table. For self defense, I have a variety of options based on whether I am defending against home intruders, armed trespassers or I am traveling in potential risk areas. BTW, potential risk areas have grown substantially in the past 12 months.