[Nietz]

This morning I decided it was time to take the LCP out and run a few rounds through it, I had 300 rounds of Federal American Eagle and a box of 102 gr Golden sabers to run through it and a few other things to run some rounds through so off I went.

I brought 3 magazines with me for the LCP one with the Bersa finger extension and then the 2 that ride in my pocket without extensions, loaded all three up with the American eagle and the first magazine went off without a hitch, second mag, the second round did not feed into the chamber all of the way so the slide was back a bit no worries I thought maybe I just limp wristed it ejected the round and went on with 3 or 4 flawless magazines and 2 mags worth of the Golden sabers, and then I got another Failure to feed with the federal, same as before so I ejected the round and made it through the first box with the 2 ftf.

now the gun is nice and dirty (and from only one box) the ammo was filthy and I am hoping it had something to do with the performance of the pistol, I shot a 50 round box of 9mm through the BHP and a P89 just for kicks after the first box of .380 and then gave the LCP a wipe down (dry, just to get the heavy build up off of it and yes there was lots of black all over the gun at this point) and loaded up a few more mags of .380 and went at it, now is when the disappointment came in, for the next 40 or so shots every other to every third round would ftf meaning it was in the chamber but the slide did not push it all of the way in the slide was open and you could see almost the entire shell casing, I could just give the slide a tap from behind and it would close and fire but the next round did the same thing and then it was every round so I gave up and went back to the 9mm's again.

I then field stripped it and gave it more of a wipe down inside but didn't "clean" it, I more just wanted to get the heavier stuff out of the way, put a dab or 2 of oil in it and see if that helped but it didn't. I put about 2 and a half boxes of AE total through her (120 rounds maybe) and the one box of golden sabers (which ftf one round from the whole box and was before it started having the ftf for every round issue) before I got frustrated enough to put it away for the day and run the rest of the 9mm I had with me through the BHP and then drag the targets out to about 75 yards and have at it with a Nylon 66 making one ragged hole

In the LCP's defense, the ammo looked extremely dirty and the gun was very black inside when I just cleaned it, more than usual with other pistols, could it be garbage ammo? I don't know I will try a different brand next time and see.

also in the LCP's defense, it was a very sandy range I was at and the wind was blowing hard at times, my range bag had some sand in it when I got home, maybe the harsh environment and the fact that sand was getting into the little ruger had an influence on its performance? again I don't know but I guess next time may tell me more.

This is the FIRST pistol that I have ever owned that was bought new and didn't function 100% out of the box and for that I am disappointed. will I get rid of the LCP? not quite yet but it is after all CCW and NEEDS to be reliable so back into the safe it goes and mister PPK comes back out for now.


other notes: the recoil was not too bad at all, it was there but not as bad as I expected. The finger extension helps with control a lot. and I saw a fella get slammed between the eyes with the scope on his 50 cal black powder rifle when the breech opened as he took a shot causing the action to open and really slammed him good, stitches are in order for that guy, it was a day at the range which is better than a day at work or a day anywhere else for that matter even if I was a bit disappointed with the little Ruger it was a good day

Nietz

 

[jocko]

u don't need to give defenses to the lcp. It should work, the conditions didn't effect your BHP. That gun should and will go 200 rounds without cleaning, easily. It is not a rolex. It is simple made and also very loose as a goose to. It should clean itself to a certain extent.

How about trying to polish the feed ramp and barrel chamber and then greasing up the slide rails and again not knowing how old the gun is or the serial number, you might have one that has issues with certain brands of ammo. Golden sabre's should work perfect, no doubt about that, But the AE, I have read before can and have given issues in some lcps. Why, I don't know. How about giving us the first 3 serial numbers, that will give us some indication as to possbly what is going on.

It should work right for you and IMO, if u like the gun and feel it is not right, give Ruger a call and have them issue a pre-paid pickup to make it right. Give themone chance to please you, then if not right peddle it. Once u loose faith in a gun, IMO you should no logner own it, don't care whose name is on it ...

If it was my lcp, I would not be shooting any hp's through it until it was reliable. Veruy expensive ammo to be just testing out. Once it gets 100% with fmj, ammo then go to your defense round and give it a whirl.

Don't give up just yet....

 

[tigertonytigger]

I hate to hear that you had a bad experience with your LCP. That is never fun after you have spent money on something and find out it isn't to your expectations. Jacko gave some good advise. Clean it real good, take it back out there again. If not happy still call Ruger and see what they have to say. I have never called them but I have heard they are great to deal with. I have had mine for a while and have put lots of rounds through it and many different type of ammo and never had one problem. That is why I carry it with me all the time, I am 100% confident in its performance and it will be ready when/if I need it. I hope it works out for you. Let us know.

 

[HowardCohodas]

I have only owned two brands of firearms, S&W and Ruger. I've had occasion to deal with customer service with both. I find them both outstanding. I read on other forums that these are the two best firearm companies with respect to customer service.

Good luck.

 

[jstall]

I have only owned two brands of firearms, S&W and Ruger. I've had occasion to deal with customer service with both. I find them both outstanding. I read on other forums that these are the two best firearm companies with respect to customer service.

Good luck.

I've shot mine about 150 rounds, not any malfunction at all, It has a crimson sight, and when using that at about 6 yards, dead on, now, if you point and shoot even at 2 to 3 yards, takes some practice, in fact it would be very easy in a quick fire, to miss a person at 3 yards without really doing so point and shoot practice, no doubt it is just what is is susposed to be, "BETTER THAN NOTHING" AND IS A very close and personal defense gun, forget range

js

 

[jocko]

jstall

+10 on that. It is a defense gun. Get damn good at 3 yards and u will probalby survive a confrontation. I know most think, hell 3 yards- a no brainer why train that close. get good from the hip, POA shooting, weak hand, , running, double targets, clearing jams, keep um all in a FBI silhouette at 3 yards . Screw the bulleye target. Shoot good defense ammo and oh yes carry OFTEN.

 

[wop2]

I've pushed about 100 rounds through my LCP, and it shoots to point of aim. I'm covering a 9" paper plate at 7 yards, and it don't get much better than that with a BUG. I like the ergonomics, and its instinctive feel. Unlike my S&W642 and 638. Those humpbacked J-frames do not shoot to point of aim, and the recoil and noise is awful. I've been carrying it in front pocket as a BUG to a P-229 or a 1911. From time to time, I've carried it alone, but I feel kinda naked without a big brother to escort Elsie Pea around town.

 

[jocko]

I've pushed about 100 rounds through my LCP, and it shoots to point of aim. I'm covering a 9" paper plate at 7 yards, and it don't get much better than that with a BUG. I like the ergonomics, and its instinctive feel. Unlike my S&W642 and 638. Those humpbacked J-frames do not shoot to point of aim, and the recoil and noise is awful. I've been carrying it in front pocket as a BUG to a P-229 or a 1911. From time to time, I've carried it alone, but I feel kinda naked without a big brother to escort Elsie Pea around town.

IMO probably one of the first truthful opinions of accuracy of the lcp. (9 paper plate at 7 yards is super IMO.) It just erks me to no end when I read of these "shooters" doing 2" groups at 15 yards with the lcp. But I read it all the time, so I guess it has to be TRUE. : :

IMO though darn good shooting for the lcp. I shoot the hell out of my PM9 kahr and truthfully at 7 yards a 9" plate full of holes would also be my goal with that weapon to. I read an article today while loafing at Wal-mart in the magazine section that 70% of shootings are under 5 yards and 90% are under 15 yards. If you get good at 7 yards, u should feel mentally comfortable. I think it said DEA people were the longest shooters on average to 15 yards, while the FBI was under 5 yards.

 

[ToddG]

I'm pretty confident that with the right ammo and some patience, I could get 2" groups out of my LCP at 15yd. I know from experience that I can hit a 12x12 plate at 75yd without trouble as long as I hold properly (a bit above the plate). The trigger is long, but if you apply the proper fundamentals you'll still get an unplanned break. The pull, at least on mine, is fairly smooth and light (about 7#).

My sights were regulated perfectly.

I'm at the range tomorrow night, I'll try doing some of my normal 3x5 Card Drill marksmanship practice with the LCP, and/or a run at Dot Torture.

 

[phildavis516]

I have put 150 rounds through mine with no problems. Both WWB and Remington. Shoots really nice. Trying to get a picture to upload, but my camera is fighting with me and at the moment it is winning.

 

[MEJETSKI2000]

I can relate, as my initial range session was marred by constant FTF's even with FMJ ammo. Gold Saber's shot low at 7 yards by about 3" and Cor-Bon JHP jammed on almost every round. I did a super-duty cleaning and noticed a few tool marks on the ramp exactly where the bullet tips were hanging up coming out of the mag. A felt wheel and jewler's rouge polished them out and I also polished the edge at the chamber (carefully) as well as the guide rod. I can now hand-cycle WWB and 3 different JHP thru the gun w/o a bobble whatsoever, will retest this week at the range.

I'm not gonna get too bent yet, as every other semi-auto I've owned other than my Glocks have required tweaking to some degree, my 1911 requiring 2 trips back to the factory to get it right.

My sights seem regulated for a 90-95gr bullet as they're dead on at 7 yards with 2 brands tried (Winchester and Cor-Bon). I highly recommend you do the same with your gun. Good Luck !!

 

[bankerrkt]

I would definately make sure the rails are well oiled/greased for the next range trip. I definately agree with what someone else stated about only running FMJ through the LCP until you view it as reliable. Although the LCP is not tight from the factory sometimes running a couple of hundred rounds through it, works out the kinks. In any event a phone call to Ruger won't hurt. Good luck!

 

[TheJackal]

I guess I one of the "lucky ones." I've not had a fail to fire or feed issue with mine at all. I've sent a bunch of rounds through both before and after the recall. She eats them and spits them out nicely.

 

[k1k]

i've never had a FTF with my LCP. The first box of ammo i bought was Remington though, and out of 6-8 magazines of ammo 2-3 rounds in each mag were dead primers. I switched to Winchester FMJ for the Range and Hornaady Self Defense loads for when i'm carrying. No problems with either one of those.

 

[revance]

I just picked up my LCP last week and haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but I have noticed it doesn't feed very smoothly. If you don't completely slingshot the slide closed it will get stuck. It makes huge scratches in the edge of the cartridge case and the middle of the feed ramp shows where the front of the bullet hits it and rubs some copper off.

Is everyone's like this? I'm hoping it will have no feed trouble when it has the full force of cycling, but none of my other pistols are like this. I can slowly move my slide forward on everything else and the cartridge just slides into the pipe.

I plan to take it out later today and just deal with the 20 degree weather.

 

[LittleLiver]

After a few similar problems I was able to resolve them and now my LCP is running smooth. As for dirty ammo I have found that AE is pretty dirty ammo, sometimes this is the only ammo brand around here so I shoot it quite frequently. The Rem./UMC I get here is a bit cleaner. Different ammo brands /types are not readily available here what with only WW, a Big 5 (expensive ammo prices here so I don't buy from them to much) and a local family business about the only ones that I can get ammo from. 100 miles round trip to buy quality ammo for me, Cabelas, Sportsmans Wharehouse etc...

 

[jocko]

I just picked up my LCP last week and haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but I have noticed it doesn't feed very smoothly. If you don't completely slingshot the slide closed it will get stuck. It makes huge scratches in the edge of the cartridge case and the middle of the feed ramp shows where the front of the bullet hits it and rubs some copper off.

Is everyone's like this? I'm hoping it will have no feed trouble when it has the full force of cycling, but none of my other pistols are like this. I can slowly move my slide forward on everything else and the cartridge just slides into the pipe.

I plan to take it out later today and just deal with the 20 degree weather.

HAVE YOU???
#1 cleaned and relubed this gun any
#2 have u polished the feed ramp any ( it doesn't hurt u know)
#3 have you tried just racking the slide (no magazine) about 500 times as fast as u can. this helps break in without leaving the house even.
#4 Have you shot a 100 rounds through it????
#5 this pistol is not like your other pistols.
#6 with proper tlc, it will go bang every time, no doubt in my mind.

 

[revance]

HAVE YOU???
#1 cleaned and relubed this gun any
#2 have u polished the feed ramp any ( it doesn't hurt u know)
#3 have you tried just racking the slide (no magazine) about 500 times as fast as u can. this helps break in without leaving the house even.
#4 Have you shot a 100 rounds through it????
#5 this pistol is not like your other pistols.
#6 with proper tlc, it will go bang every time, no doubt in my mind.

#1 - yes
#2 - not yet
#3 - I have been doing that, but definitely not 500 times yet
#4 - See below
#5 - I would definitely agree
#6 - Hopefully

I did finally get out to shoot it today but only shot 30 rounds through because my fingers were freezing. I had one FTE during rapid fire, but everything fed fine. I can't give a very good range report because I didn't shoot it much and didn't bother setting up targets (too cold to haul them out). All I can say is it was definitely snappy and hopefully that FTE is a break-in issue. It still needs the slide to close with full force to load a round into the chamber, but that just might be the way these things are. As long as it loads, I don't plan on reloading my cases, so I don't care.

 

[TheJackal]

HAVE YOU???
#1 cleaned and relubed this gun any
#2 have u polished the feed ramp any ( it doesn't hurt u know)
#3 have you tried just racking the slide (no magazine) about 500 times as fast as u can. this helps break in without leaving the house even.
#4 Have you shot a 100 rounds through it????
#5 this pistol is not like your other pistols.
#6 with proper tlc, it will go bang every time, no doubt in my mind.

1 yes
2. no
3. only through firing it 8)
4. several times over
5. agreed. It feeds better when the full force of the return spring is allowed to do the work. She may be small but she ain't no baby. ;D
6. agreed. With a variety of ammo.

 

[MEJETSKI2000]

+1 On the ramp polishing, mine fetched up with almost every load even FMJ. A dremel with a felt roll and some jewler's rouge gets it really smooth. Everything hand cycles smoothly now, even Cor-Bons which hung up every round. A GOOD teflon-based lube like Tetra L, Mil-Tec, etc helps also. Polish that ramp, I bet that'll fix it right up.