sounds good can the adminstrator move to this subforom the articles
posted elsewhere for the LCP Max
posted elsewhere for the LCP Max
Lcp max
How about a lcp max sub forum
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I have one of the very early LCP .380's and another, the very first modification they made, gen 2 or #2 or whatever they called it. Both have worked perfectly all these years. Yesterday i bought a new LCP Max. That was a mistake. It won't even cycle. The bullet just gets stuck in the cylinder and the only way i can get it out is to take the gun apart. I brought it back to tbe store and they are sending it back to Ruger. I was told repairs usually take 4 to 6 weeks.
Got it back from Ruger a lot quicker than 4 to 6 weeks, and i tried it out a couple of days ago. I still think it was a mistake and I should have stuck with my proven reliable old originals. The Max shot OK except one ftf which i never had on the old ones. It was the last round in the mag. The round shot when i tried it again.
Two other problems: the finger pinch thing. I get that too. I think it effects people with big fingers. I filed down the hole above the trigger smoothing it out some, but it's hard to get a file in there. It helped but not entirely.
The second problem is also one that reviewers have complained about and that is the mag release button sticks out and can get accidentally pushed, releasing the mag in the pocket or elsewhere. I had that same problem with the old original LCP's and i addressed it the same way, by filing down the button. That worked perfectly in my old ones but I don't know if it will in the Max because the button sticks out a lot.
Two other problems: the finger pinch thing. I get that too. I think it effects people with big fingers. I filed down the hole above the trigger smoothing it out some, but it's hard to get a file in there. It helped but not entirely.
The second problem is also one that reviewers have complained about and that is the mag release button sticks out and can get accidentally pushed, releasing the mag in the pocket or elsewhere. I had that same problem with the old original LCP's and i addressed it the same way, by filing down the button. That worked perfectly in my old ones but I don't know if it will in the Max because the button sticks out a lot.
I have mentioed it before , I believe Ruger dropped the ball when they designed the mag release as a button on the side of the frame instead of a "European" style latch on the bottom of the handle. There is no need to reload on a last ditch pocket pistol and the placement of the mag release allows the magazine to be released. Anyone who actually believes that they will be reloading a pocket pistol instead of getting the hell away is living in fantasy land. I was a cop, Homicide investigator and SWAT team commander for 32 years and never saw or heard of a single case where somone actually stayed at the scene to reload.Got it back from Ruger a lot quicker than 4 to 6 weeks, and i tried it out a couple of days ago. I still think it was a mistake and I should have stuck with my proven reliable old originals. The Max shot OK except one ftf which i never had on the old ones. It was the last round in the mag. The round shot when i tried it again.
Two other problems: the finger pinch thing. I get that too. I think it effects people with big fingers. I filed down the hole above the trigger smoothing it out some, but it's hard to get a file in there. It helped but not entirely.
The second problem is also one that reviewers have complained about and that is the mag release button sticks out and can get accidentally pushed, releasing the mag in the pocket or elsewhere. I had that same problem with the old original LCP's and i addressed it the same way, by filing down the button. That worked perfectly in my old ones but I don't know if it will in the Max because the button sticks out a lot.
i was also on the job. highly unlikely there will be a civilian scenario involving reloading in the midst of a gunfight. They say the extra bullets or magazine is mainly so u don't have to go home with an empty gun!
i never had a gun with that European mag release on the bottom. it sounds like a better idea. Can it be accidentally pressed while pocket carrying too? i have to watch out with all of them that the mag release side button doesn't get accidentally pressed releasing the mag, including Glocks. I would be happy with a button that is nicely recessed, the opposite of what they like to do. i don't know what they're thinking when they design these things. R they thinking that the LCP's and the like r mainly going to be used for competition shooting at the range where you'd want a quickly easily popping out magazine?
I'm tending towards old fashioned revolvers these days.
i never had a gun with that European mag release on the bottom. it sounds like a better idea. Can it be accidentally pressed while pocket carrying too? i have to watch out with all of them that the mag release side button doesn't get accidentally pressed releasing the mag, including Glocks. I would be happy with a button that is nicely recessed, the opposite of what they like to do. i don't know what they're thinking when they design these things. R they thinking that the LCP's and the like r mainly going to be used for competition shooting at the range where you'd want a quickly easily popping out magazine?
I'm tending towards old fashioned revolvers these days.
The "european" style latch is a positive lock up that does not inadvertantly release the magazine like the current one on the LCP. Yes, it makes for slower reloading but I'm not sticking around for that, lol. I am also tired of the release being deployed while in my pocket and have gravitated back to my trusty "j" frame sw 638.i was also on the job. highly unlikely there will be a civilian scenario involving reloading in the midst of a gunfight. They say the extra bullets or magazine is mainly so u don't have to go home with an empty gun!
i never had a gun with that European mag release on the bottom. it sounds like a better idea. Can it be accidentally pressed while pocket carrying too? i have to watch out with all of them that the mag release side button doesn't get accidentally pressed releasing the mag, including Glocks. I would be happy with a button that is nicely recessed, the opposite of what they like to do. i don't know what they're thinking when they design these things. R they thinking that the LCP's and the like r mainly going to be used for competition shooting at the range where you'd want a quickly easily popping out magazine?
I'm tending towards old fashioned revolvers these days.
Tried the lcp max again and it had a jam again. Now i trust it as much as i do a Kel-tec.
LCP......Little Crappy Pistol. We both know that one failure to feed/eject is one to many to trust your life with. Back to the trusty "J" frame. Hey, We carried it for many years as a cop when we had an obligation to "take action".....it will serve us well as we are concerned only about ourselves and loved ones in the form of self defense. We no longer have the obligation to take anyone into custody for a crime committed. Personally, I would never trust a handgun that jams, even occasionally, for self defense.Tried the lcp max again and it had a jam again. Now i trust it as much as i do a Kel-tec.
Same here, brother, tho i must say my two old original LCP's never jammed. My favorite now is also the j-frame, but .32, 6 shot. On the job i carried Colt and S&W 38's before they switched to Glocks.
That jamming LCP Max i have, that's after it came back from the Ruger factory supposedly repaired and tested, 50 times they said. Maybe there was something wrong with the ammo maybe, but i don't trust it. The only reliable mini semi autos i've ever found were the old LCP's, but none compare in reliability to a good revolver, including Glocks etc. It's easy to "limp wrist" most Glocks.
That jamming LCP Max i have, that's after it came back from the Ruger factory supposedly repaired and tested, 50 times they said. Maybe there was something wrong with the ammo maybe, but i don't trust it. The only reliable mini semi autos i've ever found were the old LCP's, but none compare in reliability to a good revolver, including Glocks etc. It's easy to "limp wrist" most Glocks.
My original "Gen 1 " (2008) still works like a charm, long trigger pull and all, lol. Ruger sent me a replacement "updated" spring and guide rod last year. Definitley a stiffer spring, and longer also, which makes it a bit harder to rack but the reliability is still there. This is my "summer shorts gun" but main EDC is the j frame .38. TRUST YOUR LIFE TO A GUN THAT WORKS EVERY TIME!!!!Same here, brother, tho i must say my two old original LCP's never jammed. My favorite now is also the j-frame, but .32, 6 shot. On the job i carried Colt and S&W 38's before they switched to Glocks.
That jamming LCP Max i have, that's after it came back from the Ruger factory supposedly repaired and tested, 50 times they said. Maybe there was something wrong with the ammo maybe, but i don't trust it. The only reliable mini semi autos i've ever found were the old LCP's, but none compare in reliability to a good revolver, including Glocks etc. It's easy to "limp wrist" most Glocks.
Put one of these in it and try it out.Tried the lcp max again and it had a jam again. Now i trust it as much as i do a Kel-tec.
13 lb Outer Recoil Spring for Ruger® LCP® MAX Pistols
13 lb Outer Recoil Spring for the LCP® MAXWe've been in development for some time on a recoil spring set up for the LCP® MAX 380. Well wait no more as we have the answer you've been looking for. Our Outer Recoil Spring replaces your stock outer recoil spring, which when combined with the stock...
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A self defense pistol should work out of the box every single time! Putting aftermarket parts in a DEFENSIVE pistol is ill advised in my opinion. The first thing I learned at the Glock Armorer's school is NEVER EVER use aftermarket parts in your defensive carry gun. If Ruger engineers wanted it in there, they would have put it in. I will not second guess the engineering of this gun as it pertains to parts. Clearly, Ruger engineers did not think it was a good idea.Put one of these in it and try it out.
13 lb Outer Recoil Spring for Ruger® LCP® MAX Pistols
13 lb Outer Recoil Spring for the LCP® MAXWe've been in development for some time on a recoil spring set up for the LCP® MAX 380. Well wait no more as we have the answer you've been looking for. Our Outer Recoil Spring replaces your stock outer recoil spring, which when combined with the stock...
It is quite unfortunate that they have manufactured a weapon that has so many reliability issues. I have 2 friends who have purchased the LCP Max and both have been returned to Ruger twice!!! Totally unacceptable for a defensive pocket weapon.
I modify most of my weapons to increase reliability. The original LCP has such a weak spring that it jammed constantly. I put a heavier spring in it and it has never jammed since. The reason Ruger puts weak springs in them is so people with weak hands can rack the slide back. I don’t have that problem.A self defense pistol should work out of the box every single time! Putting aftermarket parts in a DEFENSIVE pistol is ill advised in my opinion. The first thing I learned at the Glock Armorer's school is NEVER EVER use aftermarket parts in your defensive carry gun. If Ruger engineers wanted it in there, they would have put it in. I will not second guess the engineering of this gun as it pertains to parts. Clearly, Ruger engineers did not think it was a good idea.
It is quite unfortunate that they have manufactured a weapon that has so many reliability issues. I have 2 friends who have purchased the LCP Max and both have been returned to Ruger twice!!! Totally unacceptable for a defensive pocket weapon.
There are all kinds of cheap shortcuts that manufacturers take. You can trust them all you want. I’m going to make sure my kit runs right.
As mentioed in my prior post, Ruger has replaced that spring with a longer stiffer(12lb) spring. Over the years as I taught defensive carry/combat tactics , I have observed countless numbers of folks who improperly cycle (rack) rounds into their pistols. They try to pull the slide back, which is the wrong way, instead of pushing the frame forward while gripping the top of the slide. If folks are having a difficult time cycling a round, chances are they are making that mistake. Just a few months ago, I showed an elderly gentleman who was having a difficult time "working the slide" the proper way to cylce and he does it with ease now that he understands the "push" technique. When I was on the SWAT team, we changed out the recoil springs, (with the blessing of Glock), to heavier springs for the sole purpose of quick follow up shots in close quarters. Our MP 5 took care of the rest lolI modify most of my weapons to increase reliability. The original LCP has such a weak spring that it jammed constantly. I put a heavier spring in it and it has never jammed since. The reason Ruger puts weak springs in them is so people with weak hands can rack the slide back. I don’t have that problem.
There are all kinds of cheap shortcuts that manufacturers take. You can trust them all you want. I’m going to make sure my kit runs right.
I'll have to try the "push technique". I never heard of it before. Nevertheless my original model LCP and also their first revised model - I forget their model numbers - 2 or II or whatever they called the 1st revision - have both worked flawlessly so far, original springs and all, because one single jam in a gun, especially a mini semi auto like these, and i don't trust it anymore. The original LCP was the only mini semi auto I've ever had or tried that I trusted.
Changing springs etc. smacks of the Kel-Tecs, which i trust as far as i can throw them - and all their talk about having to buff the slide and shoot a few hundred rounds before it can be reliable! I think I'll send the new LCP Max back to Ruger again, tho maybe now they'll say I voided their warranty by filing down the mag release button and the hole on top of the trigger where my hand catches.
I once had a tiny Kel-Tec .380 that i returned so many times they finally refunded my money. Keltec had good service but junk guns. The best of the little Keltecs i had was the .32. It worked great up until round #200 or whatever it was, and then it jammed, so i sold it. I definitely prefer revolvers now, including the Ruger LCR which i once said i wanted to sell on the other forum here. I couldn't sell it, but then i made a mod a mod of my own, but with the grip, and it became my favorite, but i no longer have it now.
Re above: When we switched over to Glock, quite new at the time, I had a lot of trouble with my model 19. It spit lead right into my face. I brought it to the armorer multiple times but they couldn't fix it, and then Glock finally replaced it with a good one. Glocks are also very susceptible to what they call "limp wristing" - with the exception of - out of the models i am familiar with - the .357sig.
What really bugs me about the LCP Max is i bought a few extra magazines along with it.
"I taught defensive carry/combat tactics"
I taught "defensive tactics".
Changing springs etc. smacks of the Kel-Tecs, which i trust as far as i can throw them - and all their talk about having to buff the slide and shoot a few hundred rounds before it can be reliable! I think I'll send the new LCP Max back to Ruger again, tho maybe now they'll say I voided their warranty by filing down the mag release button and the hole on top of the trigger where my hand catches.
I once had a tiny Kel-Tec .380 that i returned so many times they finally refunded my money. Keltec had good service but junk guns. The best of the little Keltecs i had was the .32. It worked great up until round #200 or whatever it was, and then it jammed, so i sold it. I definitely prefer revolvers now, including the Ruger LCR which i once said i wanted to sell on the other forum here. I couldn't sell it, but then i made a mod a mod of my own, but with the grip, and it became my favorite, but i no longer have it now.
Re above: When we switched over to Glock, quite new at the time, I had a lot of trouble with my model 19. It spit lead right into my face. I brought it to the armorer multiple times but they couldn't fix it, and then Glock finally replaced it with a good one. Glocks are also very susceptible to what they call "limp wristing" - with the exception of - out of the models i am familiar with - the .357sig.
What really bugs me about the LCP Max is i bought a few extra magazines along with it.
"I taught defensive carry/combat tactics"
I taught "defensive tactics".
I brought the LCP Max back to the gun store again. Since I paid extra for their gun care guarantee I was told they will send it to a gunsmith instead of back to Ruger this time.
I saw this on a different Ruger forum:
"Worst gun I ever had was a Taurus TCP.....this Ruger is approaching it."
"Worst gun I ever had was a Taurus TCP.....this Ruger is approaching it."
You are the first person i ever heard say this, and i had my wife practice.... wow thats amazing! Pushing with the firing hand makes it seem more natural to do. ThanksAs mentioed in my prior post, Ruger has replaced that spring with a longer stiffer(12lb) spring. Over the years as I taught defensive carry/combat tactics , I have observed countless numbers of folks who improperly cycle (rack) rounds into their pistols. They try to pull the slide back, which is the wrong way, instead of pushing the frame forward while gripping the top of the slide. If folks are having a difficult time cycling a round, chances are they are making that mistake. Just a few months ago, I showed an elderly gentleman who was having a difficult time "working the slide" the proper way to cylce and he does it with ease now that he understands the "push" technique. When I was on the SWAT team, we changed out the recoil springs, (with the blessing of Glock), to heavier springs for the sole purpose of quick follow up shots in close quarters. Our MP 5 took care of the rest lol
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Great advice for those who did not know it. I learned the technique in 1960 when I trained on a M1911 in the Corp. it is a simple matter of physics. It is easier to push than to pull against resistance, and the frame having more surface area than the slide it is easier to transfer force against the spring. Oddly, I thought most folks knew that. Silly me.As mentioed in my prior post, Ruger has replaced that spring with a longer stiffer(12lb) spring. Over the years as I taught defensive carry/combat tactics , I have observed countless numbers of folks who improperly cycle (rack) rounds into their pistols. They try to pull the slide back, which is the wrong way, instead of pushing the frame forward while gripping the top of the slide. If folks are having a difficult time cycling a round, chances are they are making that mistake. Just a few months ago, I showed an elderly gentleman who was having a difficult time "working the slide" the proper way to cylce and he does it with ease now that he understands the "push" technique. When I was on the SWAT team, we changed out the recoil springs, (with the blessing of Glock), to heavier springs for the sole purpose of quick follow up shots in close quarters. Our MP 5 took care of the rest lol
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