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I strongly recommend that you DO NOT reach for your credentials in your pocket, glove compartment, console, etc. while the officer is still in his vehicle, or approaching you. Wait until the officer instructs you to do so. Then hand over both your Driver's License and Carry Permit. (I suggest that you show your Carry permit, whether it is required by your state law or not).
Also important, DO NOT say "I have a gun!".

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That's the way I've done it, twice now... once on the side of the road checking my GPS on a country road, the other out of state doing 65 in a 55 where I apparently missed the sign... no ticket just a polite conversation
 

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How does law enforcement connect your CCW license to your vehicle license plate(s)?
 

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In NC your conceal carry permit is tied to your driver’s license. I’ve been stopped a few times over the years with my gun in the car. I hand the officer my driver’s license and conceal carry permit together. They look at them and ask if I have a gun in the car. I say yes and tell the officer where. They may ask to hold it during the stop or ask me not to reach for it during the stop. I they want to hold it I hand it to them grip first and let them know I have a round chambered and that the safety is on. They’ve always wanted to see it, even if they didn’t want to hold it during the stop, and we have wound up talking about my pistol a little bit during the stop. I’ve never had any problem.
 
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In NC your conceal carry permit is tied to your driver’s license. I’ve been stopped a few times over the years with my gun in the car. I hand the officer my driver’s license and conceal carry permit together. They look at them and ask if I have a gun in the car. I say yes and tell the officer where. They may ask to hold it during the stop or ask me not to reach for it during the stop. I they want to hold it I hand it to them grip first and let them know I have a round chambered and that the safety is on. They’ve always wanted to see it, even if they didn’t want to hold it during the stop, and we have wound up talking about my pistol a little bit during the stop. I’ve never had any problem.
Welcome to the forum getvicious! Here in Idaho our carry license is also tied through the DMV. A Cop here would never ask to see our weapon. They would ask where the weapons are and say don't touch them. If they did I would politely ask them to call their Supervisor. The slightest confusion could get me shot. Den
 
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I hand picked my Wallet for CCW, Just opening it will show my Drivers license right next to my CCW permit and my registration card in ONE VIEW. I do not want to go into the glove box. I will keep both hands on top of the wheel. Be Prepared with a CCW Wallet, and be Pleasant, but quiet. Don't start running your big mouth which is a distraction in itself.
 

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@getviscious posted info about NC laws that are wrong and liable to get someone killed.

In NC:

1. Your DL and CCW are not tied together.
2. You must always carry your CCW license, regardless if you are carrying.
3. You must inform an officer you are a CCW holder IMMEDIATELY during any legal interaction.
4. You must keep your hands on the wheel at all times while informing the officer about your CCW and the firearms location.

And I have never heard of anyone being asked to pull the gun out and hand it to the officer lmao.

Your post is dangerous for you and others. Please refresh yourself on the laws in the state.

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I have read the Virginia Law, but actually plan to talk to a patrol officer I know tomorrow. I have not been stopped in decades, but in Virginia, I believe they will kindly ask you to step out of your car with hands over your head and then place hands on top of car for them to remove the firearm. I am not sure this is the procedure, but it would make sense. Maybe it is up to the individual officer. I also seem to remember they do this and use the Phrase "This is for your own Protection" when doing this procedure.
 

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I have read the Virginia Law, but actually plan to talk to a patrol officer I know tomorrow. I have not been stopped in decades, but in Virginia, I believe they will kindly ask you to step out of your car with hands over your head and then place hands on top of car for them to remove the firearm. I am not sure this is the procedure, but it would make sense. Maybe it is up to the individual officer. I also seem to remember they do this and use the Phrase "This is for your own Protection" when doing this procedure.
I think the same would happen here in Idaho but only if the officer felt he/she had a reason for me to step out of the vehicle. That would be fine with me. Den
 

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@getviscious posted info about NC laws that are wrong and liable to get someone killed.

In NC:

1. Your DL and CCW are not tied together.
2. You must always carry your CCW license, regardless if you are carrying.
3. You must inform an officer you are a CCW holder IMMEDIATELY during any legal interaction.
4. You must keep your hands on the wheel at all times while informing the officer about your CCW and the firearms location.

And I have never heard of anyone being asked to pull the gun out and hand it to the officer lmao.

Your post is dangerous for you and others. Please refresh yourself on the laws in the state.

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Sorry you don't agree.

"1. Your DL and CCW are not tied together." - My NC Concealed Handgun Permit (CHP) lists my NC driver's license number. The Sheriff's Deputy who issued my CHP at the courthouse told me they are linked (as did the instructor of the class I attended several years ago). I can only state what I have been told.

"2. You must always carry your CCW license, regardless if you are carrying." - I don't think I mentioned that specifically, just that "I hand the officer my driver’s license and conceal carry permit together."

"3. You must inform an officer you are a CCW holder IMMEDIATELY during any legal interaction." - Yes, I know. That's why "I hand the officer my driver’s license and conceal carry permit together." and tell the officer I have a gun.

"4. You must keep your hands on the wheel at all times while informing the officer about your CCW and the firearms location." - The officers who have stopped me have never mentioned that, but that's pretty much common sense unless you're handing the officer your documents and I tend to do that anyway (carrying or not). BTW, I've not read that in the NC statutes. Do you have a reference?

"And I have never heard of anyone being asked to pull the gun out and hand it to the officer lmao." - I never said I removed the pistol from the holster. I pocket carry most of the time and when I was stopped the pistol was in the pocket holster sitting where I place it when driving. I said "I hand it to them grip first and let them know I have a round chambered and that the safety is on." I've been stopped 4 times since getting my NC CHP. Two times the officer asked to hold my pistol during the stop. Both times they were interested in the pistol and we chatted a bit after everything checked out and they handed it back to me. The other two times the officers asked me to leave the pistol where it was and keep my hands away from it, which I did. Glad I could give you a laugh. Apparently your experiences are different than mine.

"liable to get someone killed." - Sorry you missed how I told the officer about my gun (as required by NC statute - and common sense) and only took the actions they requested me to take.

I don't consider being stopped by an officer while carrying a big deal. I tell the officer I'm carrying and where the gun is in the car. I'm polite, they're polite. There's nothing scary about any of the exchanges I've had with officers and I certainly never felt like my being armed placed me in danger with the officer, quite the opposite in fact. In my experience they're pretty good folks just doing their jobs. I'm friendly to them and they're friendly back. No problem.
 
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Today, I made it a point to go see a friend of mine that is a seasoned active duty Virginia Beach Police officer. Here is what he told me. Yes keep your hands on the wheel. And then comply with what the officer tells you to do. If you have a CCW tell him and if the weapon is on the same side as your wallet, wait for advice before reaching. He told me each officer works by their discretion. Most rookies will after finding out that you have a weapon, ask you to step out of the car and they will handcuff you, temporarily, until they run the gun and clear it. And yes, this is for your own Protection. The bottom line is use common sense. Think about the Officer. It must be extremely stressful for them to just walk up to a car these days. Keep cool, be patient and polite. Make it easy on the cop. He told me some seasoned officers like himself would let the driver bring the gun out for the Officer. If you feel uncomfortable with that, he said, then tell him, they have no problem with getting another car out to the scene, or you can just request to be handcuffed and let the officer handle the off holstering, and running the gun. They appreciate your concern for yourself and for them.
Use Common Sense. In today's world there is not much of it left in society. I see it all day every day where I live in the South. What I do see is "Belligerence" rudeness, defiant loud boisterous jerks that think they are "Entitled" to do this. Where every cop is a enemy! A cop's job where I live cannot be a easy one and they ARE NOT the enemy. Quite the contrary!
 

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In most states your pistol permit information is in a database that the police dispatcher has access to. When your registration plate is called into headquarters by the officer, the dispatcher researches, among other things:

~ The status of your drivers license.
~ The status of your vehicle registration.
~ Any outstanding arrest warrants.
~ The status of any weapons permits.
~ Whether or not you have firearms registered to you.

As far as an officer asking you to surrender your weapon, I have seen that occur. In my limited 30 years of experience that's done on a case by case basis, and is a relatively new thing.
 
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Today, I made it a point to go see a friend of mine that is a seasoned active duty Virginia Beach Police officer. Here is what he told me. Yes keep your hands on the wheel. And then comply with what the officer tells you to do. If you have a CCW tell him and if the weapon is on the same side as your wallet, wait for advice before reaching. He told me each officer works by their discretion. Most rookies will after finding out that you have a weapon, ask you to step out of the car and they will handcuff you, temporarily, until they run the gun and clear it. And yes, this is for your own Protection. The bottom line is use common sense. Think about the Officer. It must be extremely stressful for them to just walk up to a car these days. Keep cool, be patient and polite. Make it easy on the cop. He told me some seasoned officers like himself would let the driver bring the gun out for the Officer. If you feel uncomfortable with that, he said, then tell him, they have no problem with getting another car out to the scene, or you can just request to be handcuffed and let the officer handle the off holstering, and running the gun. They appreciate your concern for yourself and for them.
Use Common Sense. In today's world there is not much of it left in society. I see it all day every day where I live in the South. What I do see is "Belligerence" rudeness, defiant loud boisterous jerks that think they are "Entitled" to do this. Where every cop is a enemy! A cop's job where I live cannot be a easy one and they ARE NOT the enemy. Quite the contrary!
Out of respect and safety I will always inform the Police that I have weapons. My side arm is always on my right side and wallet in my left front pocket. Through the years I have called upon the Police, Fire Dept., and Paramedics. I owe!

But Dave, it may be confusing for a newbie starting to conceal carry in Virginia. My searches show me that in Virginia you don't have to inform the Police You have a weapon ore License to carry unless asked. Seems like this could lead to some excitement if the Officer you were talking to sees a weapon when a person reaches for his/her wallet when asked. Maybe the Cop will ask if you are armed before they ask for ID. Den
 
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Out of respect and safety I will always inform the Police that I have weapons. My side arm is always on my right side and wallet in my left front pocket. Through the years I have called upon the Police, Fire Dept., and Paramedics. I owe!

But Dave, it may be confusing for a newbie starting to conceal carry in Virginia. My searches show me that in Virginia you don't have to inform the Police You have a weapon ore License to carry unless asked. Seems like this could lead to some excitement if the Officer you were talking to sees a weapon when a person reaches for his/her wallet when asked. Maybe the Cop will ask if you are armed before they ask for ID. Den
lol, It is confusing even for someone that does try to do the right thing, know and follow the rules and stay informed. I agree with you that you do not have to show the license. The Officer I was talking to, did emphasize the point about going for you wallet with you CCW on the same side. I do not want to try and quote every thing he said verbatim. Once again, I think everything comes down to common sense and as "Cop Out" said, It is up to the discretion of the Officer, he probably has had everything checked out before he pulls you over. This officer said he would validate the CCW permit.

Virginia is also a open carry state, and you can carry your weapon without a permit in a glove box. Having a wallet with all info that the officer need to see might be a good idea. And there would be no need to go into the glove box unless the Officer requested. At which time you could request to be handcuffed and let him retrieve the weapon. Just a thought.
 

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In my CCL class someone asked if we're required to tell police if we're carrying & have a CCL. Texas laws may be different than other states but my instructor said we're not required to tell police unless they ask. In that case I won't bring it up if I'm pulled over. Otherwise I'm left with the cop's interpretation of my intentions when I say "I'm armed". Not going there if I can avoid it. I'm sure they know I have a CCL anyway from my DL.
 

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Every time I've delt with the cops, if I act relaxed and treat them like a normal person, everything goes smoothly. ALOT if videos on YouTube than are like 'hands visible at all times, say yes sir no sir, cautiously and slowly do this and that, don't fart, don't burp, don't breathe' and I get it, and maybe it depends on where u live and how hight the crime rate is. Here in Oklahoma, I've had good luck with being relaxed, smile, simply say here's my license and registration and my permit to carry a firearm (not gun)' and just do what they tell u.
 
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