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I tried to post pics of my new modified LCP but apparently need a few posts before being allowed to post pics.

I came here doing research before getting my LCP a few weeks ago. 4 years ago I acquired my CCW permit here in Kansas and started out carrying my XDm 9mm 3.8. Then I realized that sucker is too hard to always easily conceal and moved to my PPS 9mm. I've been carrying it for the last 3 years. About 2 months ago, following the beheading down in Oklahoma at a workplace, I decided I needed a pocket gun to add to my carry rotation for times when I can't even conceal my PPS, such as when at work with my work attire.

I got my stainless LCP a few weeks ago and shot about 25-30 rounds through it and was surprised at how all the hype about it being uncomfortable to shoot didn't come to fruition for me- wasn't bad at all. It didn't really seem much different than shooting my PPS as far as recoil goes. I wasn't nearly as accurate with it because of the LONG DA trigger.

I decided to do all the common upgrades to make it easier to shoot- I especially didn't like the stock trigger pull so I installed the adjustable one and cut down the overall travel by nearly half after adjustment. While I had it apart, I polished the trigger bar wherever it made contact with the frame. I polished the trigger pivot. I polished the back of the slide lock since it was nearly impossible to activate. I basically polished everywhere anything made contact with something else. I also put a mirror polish on the feed ramp. I also removed the bluing from the barrel and polished it as well.

It's like a whole different gun after dry firing it a few dozen times. The slide moves like butter, the trigger is smooth as glass and the shorter travel should allow much quicker follow up shots. The slide lock actually is easy to activate now. I'm going to do some shooting with it tomorrow when I go back home to the farm to see how all these mods improved my LCP. I'll post some pics whenever I get to whatever the magical number of posts is to allow it.
 

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Welcome from Missouri. Glad to have you with us.

Sound like you're good to go with your LCP. Good choice.
 
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welcome from OK..... you probably shoot a lot and that's one of the main reason recoil isn't a deal for ya.. if you think that trigger pull is long you should shoot my old version :) I'm used to it now so its no big deal, I had thought about getting the newer version but I think I may prefer the longer trigger.... go figure....

also if you want to tame it a bit get some wolff 12# springs for it.... empty casings won't shoot into orbit and recoil is negligible....
 

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welcome from OK..... you probably shoot a lot and that's one of the main reason recoil isn't a deal for ya.. if you think that trigger pull is long you should shoot my old version :) I'm used to it now so its no big deal, I had thought about getting the newer version but I think I may prefer the longer trigger.... go figure....

also if you want to tame it a bit get some wolff 12# springs for it.... empty casings won't shoot into orbit and recoil is negligible....
Thanks for the welcome, everyone. I forgot to mention, I swapped out the stock recoil spring with a 13lb. Wolff and have a 12lb. to try if I don't like the 13lb. What should I watch out for with the 13lb. as far as bad results? Slamming too hard into battery? I'm thinking I might start out with the 12lb. and go from there. Part of the reason I started with the 13lb. is because the stock was launching brass into orbit and I didn't think the 12lb. would make that much difference.

Edit: I just put in the 12lb. and will give it a try first.
 

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Welcome from NC. Lookin' forward to a range report. You'll only need five posts to enjoy all forum benefits, including posting images. That restriction is in place to keep spammers from loading the forum up with junk and then departing into the sunset.

Have a good day.

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Welcome to the forum from Western Pa. Glad you joined us.
 
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I'll assume you have the 11-13 pack from wolff... I bought the pack about 5months ago because I was more tired of chasing and losing my brass (I handload) then the recoil itself... I tried the 13# first for a few hundred or more then later switched to the 12#, I like it a little more as it seems to perform on par and keeps my brass tamed.... I'm going to try the 11 out on my next range trip and see how that does... just for kicks I guess but I'm pretty happy with the springs, I'm not sure if the springs had anything to do with it or just a fluke but my guide rod just got hammered this rod has about 2,500 rounds on it.. Finger Hand Thumb
 

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New LCP shoots WAY LOW.

I've tried posting this twice from Tapatalk with no luck, so hopefully this works from a browser.

A little background on me first. I've been regularly shooting guns for over 40 years and can usually hit where I'm aiming, provided the gun is sighted in properly.

I've had my LCP for a few weeks and shot it about a week after I got it just to see how well it shot. Every shot was about 5-6" low, but I thought maybe it was me since it was a new gun and I wasn't used to it and the long DA trigger.

Fast forward to yesterday after completing all of the mods to my LCP (new adjustable trigger, mirror polished feed ramp and barrel, polished trigger bar at all contact points, 12lb. Wolff recoil spring, stainless guide rod, 1/16" sanded off the top of the mag base plates, CT laser, and Hogue grip sleeve), and I shot it again to see if/how the mods changed anything. I set up a homemade target about 50' away (2' diameter with rings spaced 1" and a 2" diameter bullseye) and groups are still consistent in a 6-7" group but still low 5-6", so now I'm pretty sure it's not me. Gun shoots great with all the mods but I'm a little disappointed it shoots THAT low. I couldn't utilize the CT since it was bright sunlight conditions. Obviously, I'll sight the laser to POI, but I won't be depending on it with my life if the need arises- I'll just have to aim about 6" high with the iron sights to be on target, I guess.

Does anyone else's LCP shoot THAT low? Or THAT far off in any direction?
 

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I continue to see how far I am behind the curve in getting a firearm ready to fire reliably.
 

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It's always better that a Ruger LCP shoots a little low than a little high, because it is always easier to take a little metal off the top of the front sight than it is to put some on.
 

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Re: New LCP shoots WAY LOW.

That's true. I may have to get out the file and do some research on how much to take off. I would guess at the sight radius these have, it would be very little.
 

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Re: New LCP shoots WAY LOW.

I set up a homemade target about 50' away (2' diameter with rings spaced 1" and a 2" diameter bullseye) and groups are still consistent in a 6-7" group but still low 5-6", so now I'm pretty sure it's not me.
What sight picture are you using? The following is what you should be using if you're using the sights:



In addition, you need to make sure that the LCP actually fits your hand properly. If it does not, sell it as it will never shoot naturally. How do you tell if it fits properly?

In my opinion, for the point-n-shoot technique to work well, a fighting pistol MUST properly fit the shooter's hand. If it does not, then another pistol should be used. To test whether or not a particular pistol fits your hand:


  • Unload the pistol and move the ammunition to a remote place.
  • Grasp the pistol with your eyes closed.
  • Raise the pistol to a shooting position, still with your eyes closed.
  • Open your eyes and look across the sights. The sights should be very closely aligned.
  • Repeat steps 2, 3, and 4 above several times. The sight alignment should be good every time.

If a pistol fits your hand well enough to pass the test above, it will point as naturally as your index finger.

When in a combat situation (or practicing for combat shooting), you should focus on the target and NOT the sights. Bring the pistol into alignment with the target. Without even focusing on the pistol, you should see the top of the slide roughly aligned with your intended impact point. While holding the pistol in this alignment, rapidly fire at least two rounds (a "double-tap").

The above technique is a method that I've used (without defining it) and, later, read about in one of Massad Ayoob's very good books on combat pistol shooting. It works well IF the pistol fits your hand.
 
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