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Yes, or at least until we get to know you better.HowardCohodas said:I guess I need to use a better emoticon to express my "Can you believe this" reactions. Or maybe I should have put this in the humor section.
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If you still have questions on where I stand on this holster after reading reply #4, let me know. Sometimes I'm too pithy for my own good. ;Djocko said:humm, guess you got ur answer my friendnow stick it back in ur drawer along with what I also consider about as worthless--the ankle holster.
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How many reasons do you want?terrydwaters said:What is it about the gun crowd that makes us so opinionated? ???
Why is this such a bad idea?
The Ruger LCP is a perfect fit in the P3AT second generation horizontal carry
Neck Chain Holster - Ambidextrous (same "print" on both sides) with 36" Stainless Steel BallChain
The Kel-Tec neck chain concealment rigs were developed originally for LEOs to carry the back up gun under their vests. Over time a number of "civilian requests" had us make a vertical version for better concealment. Now comes the "Extreme Duty" evolution. The most popular question by phone or email is "how well does it hold?" Our standard answer is "fine for cruising around in you car or walking but not well enough to jump out of helicopters or off fences - is that what you want to do?" The answer is usually no - but just in case. We are now making "Extreme Duty" versions in Blac and the sexy carbon fiber laminate and they hang on almost as well as the NAA mini-revolver models. In fact, You nearly have to "force load" them. Yeah, they hang on good !
I really hate to go there... but I will...HowardCohodas said:I've joined in the "picking on" this holster idea. However, to be fair and balanced, let's take a look at what the maker has to say.
http://www.stellarrigs.com/gun_neckchain_rigs.html
The Ruger LCP is a perfect fit in the P3AT second generation horizontal carry
Neck Chain Holster - Ambidextrous (same "print" on both sides) with 36" Stainless Steel BallChain
The Kel-Tec neck chain concealment rigs were developed originally for LEOs to carry the back up gun under their vests. Over time a number of "civilian requests" had us make a vertical version for better concealment. Now comes the "Extreme Duty" evolution. The most popular question by phone or email is "how well does it hold?" Our standard answer is "fine for cruising around in you car or walking but not well enough to jump out of helicopters or off fences - is that what you want to do?" The answer is usually no - but just in case. We are now making "Extreme Duty" versions in Blac and the sexy carbon fiber laminate and they hang on almost as well as the NAA mini-revolver models. In fact, You nearly have to "force load" them. Yeah, they hang on good !
There are bead chain of significantly greater strength and over-all size. But that feeds right into your point... and mine. If it's not strong enough for someone to choke you with it, it's not going to be strong enough to single hand draw (never-mind the fact that it's not affixed to anything). If it's strong enough that you can single hand draw, then it's strong enough to strangle you with.tirod said:Bead chain is designed for breakaway so you can't get strangled on it - and is therefore potentially too weak for that tightly molded Kydex. If you have to force it in that hard, it takes equal force to remove it - and probably two hands. If it's easy enough to remove with one hand, it will get jounced out jumping suburban fences on a foot chase.
I was just thinking how much of a PITA it is when I get one of those random itches under my vest. Can't imagine going through that while taking blows to the face and/or securing my duty weapon.... I pocket carry my BUG.tirod said:Look at the design - for use under a vest? Not a real quick last backup access method. I call BS on that. I'm aware that any backup pistol must fall readily to hand, and anything under a shirt is not that. Officers in our area pocket carry precisely for that reason. It's much more accessible in a holstered gun grab situation.